Just on cue you give another example. I rest my case.

I can be as repetitive as I like till change is made, it’s not my intention to insult anyone,if I don’t like what I see in front of me I’m going to say so. As for negativity il say so what, would you have me clap them off the park even if I deemed it to not be deserved? I can take defeat if I think they have played well, if the other team as played that bit better then so be it.

Agree with Price not playing Russell against Wigan.

However, he has revealed his hand too early. Wane has focussed Wigan`s attack against Russell in recent times, & would without doubt tried again on Friday.

With Russell in our 19 man squad, they would have been planning all week, to exploit him, only to find-out just before kick-off, that he wasn`t playing.

Unfortunately, no matter what people's views are on Russell he is a player under contract & due to the threadbare nature of this year's squad he will soon be back in the front line because we don't have a lot of players to choose from. It will be a big feather in the cap of the coaching staff if they can turn him into a better player.
Incidentally,what has happened to the young world beater we signed from Cas?

Makes sense, but would you waste a 19 spot on a player knowing barring injury he definitely won’t be playing.

Exactly this. But make the "if" IF.

Clark to do 80 mins for me.

You don't believe Wane wouldn't know what team we would play?
Anyways. Pies have a structured game. It wouldn't make much difference to SW.

I guess they will likely line up with Gildart on the left and Bateman on the right so everything will be coming to our right regardless I think?

Totally agree regards to the fact that their focus probably be on our right flank, but with Russell now out of the 19 man squad, there will be different tactics now.

Why tell Wigan he is not playing, at this stage when their game plan would have been based around his defensive frailties & lack of aerial/try scoring threat in attack.

IMO Clark is one of the only players who never had a bad game and has not been backed up by a good enough replacement hooker and a poor pack. Played 80mins this season which worries me a bit as when Roby did that for a few years his level dropped! But for me Clark and Currie are our stand-out players, I don’t know why Clark doesn’t get more plaudits. It’s like players are forgotten about when a team drops down the league table, he’s been as good as ever.

He wants his England shirt back and good on him. Playing well. Top of the SL tackle count and with a > 10m average gain. www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... ayer_stats

He wants his England shirt back and good on him. Playing well. Top of the SL tackle count and with a > 10m average gain. www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... ayer_stats

Maybe Price wanted to use this opportunity to reward a player by including them in the squad whilst sending a very clear message to the players that no-one is undroppable and he selects on form.

Oh good, Russell isn’t playing so the usual suspects clap themselves on their backs as though Price was in some way influenced by them, deluded doesn’t even come close.

Here we go again. I'll explain so you can understand.

Nobody is saying that Price was influenced by the forum posts. Just that the forum posters view has been vindicated as clearly Price feels the same way.

So now do you understand that nobody, to my knowledge, has attempted to draw a causal link between the two events.

Who are the usual suspects by the way? Those who see things coming rather than have to wait for them to unfold?

Let me make this clear. You start with an assumption that it isn’t due to injury. Then leap to that being a vindication. Then you laud Price for dropping him when your starting point was you don’t know if he was dropped due to injury.
So to answer your question you are definitely one of the usual suspects, but you knew that.
(Just to make it even clearer your use of the word “vindication” was the back clapping I was referring to).
Karetakers reference to continuing to bleat until change takes place (I’m paraphrasing) was the deluded part. (Obviously suspect 2).
If anyone else wants clarification as to whether or not they fall into usual suspect category feel free to ask.
Ps if you can find a post where I suggest that Russell is a good winger, fill your boots.

So just so I understand, you want me to make an opinion just once regarding any player I don’t think is good enough to be in the team so I’m not classed as bleating?

Back clapping that’s interesting do you really think I get off on someone’s demise if it’s that what it is. I have an opinion you have an opinion everyone as opinions and people will sometimes disagree, so what’s your beef with what me or anyone else post and how often, as I said it’s my opinion.

I think over my time here I’ve called out many players even the team as a whole when they have been very poor, it’s not my intention to go out and single anyone person but for me it’s very obvious he as been poor for a long time, I guess that’s were your bleating comes in. Guess you miss that I’ve mentioned Westwood a few times.

Well I’m not going to change my ways because it upsets some people,I’m entitled to my say, there is always the ignore button if it bothers you.

Brown
Lineham
Goodwin
Atkins
Akoula

Ratchford
Brown

Hill
Clarke
Cooper
Currie
Hughes
Bmm

Crosby
Westwood
Philbin or King
Roberts
.
Is an alternative team that could line up?

If we had a pack that didnt need his aggression akoula on the wing for me problem sorted

Wow i wouldn't want to be facing him on the wing lol.

Steady on chaps.
Ratty Muscle looks to have been dropped. He only has himself to answer for that and we cannot pass fault on anyone else.
I may be guilty myself of saying he won't get good service but to fumble such an easy take was shameful.
However in some defence of him, my opinion, he hasn't been responsible for a loss.

we've not influenced anything. Price has just proved us to be right all along, that RUSSELL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. why on earth would us 'usual suspects' think that we had any influence on this? Get over yourself, Price has seen 3 games and realized what normal people realised 4 years ago.

Utter rubbish. Not sure anybody said he had had a good game; only that the good things he did were completely ignored.

You can drop a player or change a team around without castigating and exiling the dropped player. I think Brown will do some things better than Russell, like being more solid in the tackle and less likely to be outjumped by his opposite number. But he will also make fewer metres and be less of a threat running at the line. The coach has decided that he wants to see what Brown can do and that is completely fair enough.

Ratchford
Brown
Atkins
Goodwin
Lineham
Brown
Roberts
Hill
Clark
Cooper
Currie
BMM
Hughes

Crosby
Akuola
Philbin
Smith

I wasn't meaning Clark who ,hopefully ,is getting back to form. I was thinking of the 18 year old we signed round Christmas ,3/4 or forward. Is his name Jordan ? Supposed to be a great prospect.

Luis Johnson I think. Definitely a prospect but I've only seen him play 20 minutes or so. Tall lad and will fill out more in next couple of years. Probably just on the fringes of our 19 at the moment.

Luis Johnson.

He's a decent prospect but he's still only young, 18 I think - so needs time.

I'm guessing he'll spend some time at Rochdale this season, assuming Currie / Hughes / BMM stay fit.

He's essentially a replacement for Julien, who played more gametime than expected due to Currie's injury.

Hopefully will get a run out if we get a kind tie in the Challenge Cup...