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| Quote ="just_browny"If you think someone getting a broken leg is due to them being injury prone, you are an idiot and shouldn't be allowed near electrical equipment.
Also, in your list above two of them refer to the same injury.'"
Agree entirely, he has been incredibly unlucky to pick up the leg break the way he did.
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| Injury prone for me is a reoccurring injury.
I'm confident that there will be a correlative pattern between injuries lo knees ankle n legs to the increase of 3/4th man in is focused on creating as much impact on the legs as possible generally on a stationary player.
There's a lot of time for tom to turn things around his form.or lack of it is probably more a mental issue rather than he is not physically capable off meeting the standard. Relocating and a new job would be tough on anyone. I just get the feeling he's struggling a little with the move Clarke had a similar first season not as good as expected and not as good as was capable of. Time to settle in and adjust has done him.the world of good!! I'd hope that we get the same from tom
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| There are plenty of jobs in the real world where you don't get 12 months to settle in & there are plenty of jobs in the real world that don't pay a fraction of the wage.
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| Dodds' recovery from a broken leg so far is nothing short of astonishing. immediately after his injury Tony smith hoped he would be available for the back end of the play offs should we still be involved. It has since been stated he could be back in June.
Meanwhile Laithwaite looks nowhere near being ready and you would seriously think his career is very much in the balance his record is something like
2013 broken ankle
2014 broken foot
2015 spiral fibula fracture and 12 months out so far.....
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| Quote ="ninearches"There are plenty of jobs in the real world where you don't get 12 months to settle in & there are plenty of jobs in the real world that don't pay a fraction of the wage.'"
Agreed. But there aren't plenty of jobs where you are judged based on your performance over 80 minutes rather than the whole week.
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| I'll be first to admit his recent performances have been far from great but same can be said forth team on the whole recently. Im sure the trys will come again once we get bodies back and we as a team will be leaking less.
We've signed him on a long term contract with the future in mind also, his weaknesses are not exactly a revelation and I am sure are being addressed and over the course of his contracts will prove a good signing.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Quote ="ninearches"There are plenty of jobs in the real world where you don't get 12 months to settle in & there are plenty of jobs in the real world that don't pay a fraction of the wage.'"
Agreed. But there aren't plenty of jobs where you are judged based on your performance over 80 minutes rather than the whole week.'"
Surely, 80 minutes is a players whole week, but on the other hand, we are not privy to what players are carrying what injuries.
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| I think for the finest example of injury prone we need look no further than Gary Wheeler, injury prone is surely where a player is injured more than he is playing and that the injuries are one after the other and not necessarily the same injury - Gary Wheeler.
Dodds has had a few injuries like most but they just seem to be big ones, maybe technique and maybe bad luck, therefore unluckily for him there is the tag of injury prone due the time he is unavailable. Just differing opinions.
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| My wifes injury prone these days... she got injured when my tea wasnt ready last night... In the previous week she picked up an eye strain when the bathroom was a mess.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"My wifes injury prone these days... she got injured when my tea wasnt ready last night... In the previous week she picked up an eye strain when the bathroom was a mess.'"
I would look at an anger management program if I were you MD
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| Quote ="just_browny"If you think someone getting a broken leg is due to them being injury prone, you are an idiot and shouldn't be allowed near electrical equipment.
Also, in your list above two of them refer to the same injury.'"
Touche idiot
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| I really don't know how to feel about that
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I really don't know how to feel about that'"
How true all this is I don't know, but, I think that overall it is a good thing.
Yes it might be a bit light hearted, but, at least he's admitted that he wasn't pulling his weight either at Hull or at the start of his career here. He's accepted that he needed a kick up the backside, (probably why he had a rolled up sleeping bag down the back of his shorts), realised he's made mistakes and is trying to sort himself out and become better.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"How true all this is I don't know, but, I think that overall it is a good thing.
Yes it might be a bit light hearted, but, at least he's admitted that he wasn't pulling his weight either at Hull or at the start of his career here. He's accepted that he needed a kick up the backside, (probably why he had a rolled up sleeping bag down the back of his shorts), realised he's made mistakes and is trying to sort himself out and become better.'"
Hmm. Not so sure, personally. Think it shows a frightening lack of self-awareness. This is the same bloke who admitted on the Locker Room video that he has a mannequin of a woman in his bedroom and his weakness in a game is his inability to turn quickly. Hope the opposition teams all caught that. Strikes me his mouth is moving but his brain isn't engaging. Yet to see any sign he's trying to sort himself out - he only got back in after Penny pulled his hammy, didn't he?
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| He didn't do a bad effort for self awareness with the quickly taken tap against Hull that produced a try. I suppose it could also be argued that there are other not so slender wingers in the game who may make it harder for defences to bundle them into touch.
If there are issues that affect his game though,surely that highlights a problem over us signing him in the first place.
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| Quote ="ninearches"
If there are issues that affect his game though,surely that highlights a problem over us signing him in the first place.'"
Ultimately, that is indeed the issue. There were plenty of klaxons going off when it was announced we were signing him, and they don't appear to have quietened down in the subsequent months. That article is tongue in cheek, but there's a lot of truth bubbling away beneath the surface, I suspect.
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| Quote ="Rocky Bobby"Hmm. Not so sure, personally. Think it shows a frightening lack of self-awareness. This is the same bloke who admitted on the Locker Room video that he has a mannequin of a woman in his bedroom and his weakness in a game is his inability to turn quickly. Hope the opposition teams all caught that. Strikes me his mouth is moving but his brain isn't engaging. Yet to see any sign he's trying to sort himself out - he only got back in after Penny pulled his hammy, didn't he?'"
Bobby, I was one of his critics earlier in the thread and I'm not saying for one minute that this Daily Star expose is, in itself a panacea for Lineham's early Wire form, or more correctly my opinion of it, as it appeared that some are satisfied with try scoring stats alone.
I'm also not aware of his previous 'mannequin admissions' etc, but, the first step on the 'road to recovery' is admitting that something needs to change?
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| Agreed, Rico. I too am hopeful he turns it around - he's a Wire now, and when fit, he's a formidable weapon in the nal (I know, more talk for the poor lad). I just worry that his head isn't in the game in the way other professionals are. Hope I'm proved wrong. An expose in the Star was the last thing he should've been signing up for - doubt the club will be happy to read that piece.
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| All the article makes me think is....£125,000 Really?!
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| Like Rico says admitting there is a problem is the first step to rectifying it. He has been ok without really justifying his price tag but I will still back him to come good, needs to lose weight and improve his all round game. No reason he can't go and become a terrace hero, so long as he wants to and appreciates that he has a long way to go in order to reach that status.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"All the article makes me think is....£125,000 Really?!'"
I agree totally Yed
You've clearly gone big with this purchase monetary wise but with very little thought or research about what you were buying IMO
It's almost like buying a Audi R8 but with a 1L engine and then wonder why it's not performingicon_lol.gif
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| Most players take time to settle in, plenty of time for him to step up. I suspect TS has his measure, time will tell but don't think it's time to panic just yet.
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| The £125k isn't a big deal to us, we can afford that to spend on a player TS clearly sees as a project rather than the finished article.
Westerman on the other hand, a couple of defensive lapses aside looks like a very good buy.
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| Quote ="trent"I agree totally Yed
You've clearly gone big with this purchase monetary wise but with very little thought or research about what you were buying IMO
It's almost like buying a Audi R8 but with a 1L engine and then wonder why it's not performingicon_lol.gif'"
The wings are an area of the team we've spent no money on. Riley Penny and Ormsby were all free as they came though the youth team and JMonaghan was free as he'd been sacked. So we've only spent £125k on five wingers over the last six years or so really. Not much is it?
Plus the money doesn't really dent us, further still, the more money being spent in the game the better as it usually filters down or at least is spent by the receiving team on improvements in some shape or form.
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