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| Quote ="oli30045"Because of McNamara being the Bradford coach beforehand is the only possible explanation. I do actually think Joel Tomkins should've been in the squad because he is better than Willie Manu for the the squad and I think he has a great future ahead of him.
[size=25Infact, he shouldn't be in because he's a dirty barstool...
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He is worrying me though with some selections, cant say im going to be overly excited about the 4 nations yet again. We do have some decent players but it wont count for much with this idiot in charge...
Got nothing against Manu, but he isnt English end of story. I wouldnt want to see any of the Wigan overseas players in the England team if they could. What is interesting is that none of the top 3 English try scorers have made it into the squad, how often does that happen?
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| It was just a get together maybe Tomkins could not make it there is no Eastmond neither,and to include Manu is stupid Tickle must be gutted.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC" Ultimately he'd perform better as an impact second-rower than Westwood would.'"
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| Quote ="BOYD2"It was just a get together maybe Tomkins could not make it there is no Eastmond neither,and to include Manu is stupid Tickle must be gutted.'"
Eastmond is there. So are a whole host of injured players - Bridge, Sykes, Scruton....
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| Sorry mate he is,but lets not forget this Squad will be trimed to 23 when the party leaves i think a lot off them names are to make up the team for the benefit game in Whitehaven.
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| Paul Sykes. The Emile Heskey of Rugby League!
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Sorry mate he is,but lets not forget this Squad will be trimed to 23 when the party leaves i think a lot off them names are to make up the team for the benefit game in Whitehaven.'"
But the point is there are better players left out then some of those selected...
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Paul Sykes. The Emile Heskey of Rugby League!'"
That's a bit harsh on Heskey...
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| Quote ="oli30045"That's a bit harsh on Heskey...
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| I think you are right mate just looking at the frontrowers he has picked LMS,Lynch,Scruton,and IMO Coley,Griffin,Mason have out played them this year.
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| Chris Bridge (Warrington), Tom Briscoe (Hull FC), Kyle Eastmond (St Helens), James Graham (St Helens), Ryan Hall (Leeds), Sean O`Loughlin (Wigan), Danny McGuire (Leeds), Adrian Morley (Warrington), Jamie Peacock (Leeds), James Roby (St Helens), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Kevin Sinfield (Leeds), Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Kevin Brown (Huddersfield), Richard Myler (Warrington), Ryan Atkins (Warrington), Lee Smith (Leeds), Ben Harrison (Warrington), Jamie Langley (Bradford), Andy Lynch (Bradford), Scott Moore (St Helens), Jon Wilkin (St Helens)
would be my 23 from the list.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"I think you are right mate just looking at the frontrowers he has picked LMS,Lynch,Scruton,and IMO Coley,Griffin,Mason have out played them this year.'"
Griffin, Mason? Absolutely no way. Pair of journeymen.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"It equally surprises and disappoints me that Carvell is picked ahead of Paul Wood.'"
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| Its not about them been journey men its a bout there form has against the other names i mentioned,i doesnt matter if you have played for 20 clubs if your form warrants it you should be given a chance.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Its not about them been journey men its a bout there form has against the other names i mentioned,i doesnt matter if you have played for 20 clubs if your form warrants it you should be given a chance.'"
They're both rubbish and not good enough for England RL IMO. Mason is a dirty dog and a cheap shot merchant. Agree with Coley but to suggest these two for England when you have the likes of Paul Wood putting in 100% every week is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Chris Bridge (Warrington), Tom Briscoe (Hull FC), Kyle Eastmond (St Helens), James Graham (St Helens), Ryan Hall (Leeds), Sean O`Loughlin (Wigan), Danny McGuire (Leeds), Adrian Morley (Warrington), Jamie Peacock (Leeds), James Roby (St Helens), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Kevin Sinfield (Leeds), Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Kevin Brown (Huddersfield), Richard Myler (Warrington), Ryan Atkins (Warrington), Lee Smith (Leeds), Ben Harrison (Warrington), Jamie Langley (Bradford), Andy Lynch (Bradford), Scott Moore (St Helens), Jon Wilkin (St Helens)
would be my 23 from the list.'"
And my team....
Lee Smith
Tom Briscoe
Chris Bridge
Ryan Atkins
Ryan Hall
Sam Tomkins
Kyle Eastmond
Adrian Morley
Kevin Sinfield
James Graham
Ben Westwood
Sean O'Loughlin
Jon Wilkin
Jamie Peacock
Ben Harrison
James Roby
Jamie Langley
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| I agree with you about Wood he has been great for you this year,the point i make for the other 2 is they have been great for there club this year and out played the other 3 guys i mentioned, so like Wood he should be in front off them along with those 2.But with that clown in charge nowt surprises me MANU .
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| That Wilkin one also baffles me - he's hardly played this year!
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"And my team....
Lee Smith
Tom Briscoe
Chris Bridge
Ryan Atkins
Ryan Hall
Sam Tomkins
Kyle Eastmond
Adrian Morley
Kevin Sinfield
James Graham
Ben Westwood
Sean O'Loughlin
Jon Wilkin
Jamie Peacock
Ben Harrison
James Roby
Jamie Langley'"
Won't Ellis, Burgess and Widdop be called up at a later date.
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| Quote ="matt6169"Lost the plot or not (I agree by the way), it's great to see 7 Wire players in the squad - all deserved in my humble opinion by the way!!
Chris Bridge (Warrington), Tom Briscoe (Hull FC), Kyle Eastmond (St Helens), James Graham (St Helens), Ryan Hall (Leeds), Sean O`Loughlin (Wigan), Danny McGuire (Leeds), Adrian Morley (Warrington), Jamie Peacock (Leeds), James Roby (St Helens), Nick Scruton (Bradford), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Kevin Sinfield (Leeds), Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Shaun Lunt (Huddersfield), Kevin Brown (Huddersfield), Richard Myler (Warrington), Ryan Atkins (Warrington), Jodie Broughton (Salford), Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield), Peter Fox (Hull KR), Lee Smith (Leeds), Gareth Carvell (Warrington), Ben Harrison (Warrington), Jamie Langley (Bradford), Tony Clubb (Harlequins RL), Ben Jones-Bishop (Harlequins RL), Andy Lynch (Bradford), Joe Westerman (Castleford), Kirk Yeaman (Hull), Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook (Harlequins), Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield), Scott Moore (St Helens), Paul Sykes (Bradford), Jon Wilkin (St Helens), Willie Manu (Hull FC).
Wire = 7
Stains and Leeds = 5
Pies = 2'"
As a Leeds fan I'm claiming Jones-Bishop (who is technically still a Leeds player) to give us 6
Seriously though, does anyone know the last time Warrington provided the most players in a test squad?
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| Quote ="Dirty Pretty Thing"As a Leeds fan I'm claiming Jones-Bishop (who is technically still a Leeds player) to give us 6
Seriously though, does anyone know the last time Warrington provided the most players in a test squad?'"
This aint a test squad yet
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| Thats a joke that Joel Tomkins aint there hes been arguably the best second rower this year he should be in the squad instead of wilkin who has hardly played. Also agree with a previous poster than wood should be in instead of carvell hes had a great year so far. Good to see so many warrington players there .
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| Quote ="matt6169"Lost the plot or not (I agree by the way), it's great to see 7 Wire players in the squad - all deserved in my humble opinion by the way!!
Chris Bridge (Warrington), Tom Briscoe (Hull FC), Kyle Eastmond (St Helens), James Graham (St Helens), Ryan Hall (Leeds), Sean O`Loughlin (Wigan), Danny McGuire (Leeds), Adrian Morley (Warrington), Jamie Peacock (Leeds), James Roby (St Helens), Nick Scruton (Bradford), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Kevin Sinfield (Leeds), Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Shaun Lunt (Huddersfield), Kevin Brown (Huddersfield), Richard Myler (Warrington), Ryan Atkins (Warrington), Jodie Broughton (Salford), Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield), Peter Fox (Hull KR), Lee Smith (Leeds), Gareth Carvell (Warrington), Ben Harrison (Warrington), Jamie Langley (Bradford), Tony Clubb (Harlequins RL), Ben Jones-Bishop (Harlequins RL), Andy Lynch (Bradford), Joe Westerman (Castleford), Kirk Yeaman (Hull), Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook (Harlequins), Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield), Scott Moore (St Helens), Paul Sykes (Bradford), Jon Wilkin (St Helens), Willie Manu (Hull FC).
Wire = 7
Stains and Leeds = 5
Pies = 2'"
Huddersfield = 4
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Paul Sykes. The Emile Heskey of Rugby League!'"
nail on the head there mate.
Im suprised he hasnt picked sheriffe!
The bloke is a clown.
This could be the most embarassing 4 nations yet!
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