No, that’s not how penalty tries work mate. A penalty try is awarded if you can beyond reasonable doubt (in the opinion of the ref) say a try would have been scored but for the foul. A try scoring opportunity just means there was an opportunity to score a try that was unfairly stopped, and not that he was certain to score. This wasn’t deemed a penalty try because Dufty was close enough to potentially stop it from being scored, but there was clearly an opportunity for him to a score if he hadn’t been taken out.

This is a really good point, straight after the try was given I was expecting the Ref to ping Percival but seem scoring a try lets you off.

after state of origin last week and someone on the bench getting sinbinned, nothing surprised me now

I agree ref bashing is boring to read - imagine having to STILL put up with posts on that issue that date back to 2019???

I agree that's silly as well, not something I talk about though

Now if you brought up the play-off semi-final from 2016, then my attitude may change!

As I Wigan fan I thoroughly enjoyed the game (not just because of the result) I thought Wire showed they are now building a team spirit that could be hard to break down, especially in tight games, I thought Saints got the better side of the ref calls (sorry Reaper) but Saints were really poor in almost everything they did, they were relying on Welsby running across the line looking for a gap, but Wire stood firm.

The new messiah at full back didn't show up to his hype (expected as he is still young and I still expect him to go on to be a better player) but the Sky commentators should just concentrate on the game in hand and not spend most of the time waxing lyrical over a player, especially one so young and inexperienced, anyone tuning in for the first time would wonder who the hell they were talking about as it couldn't be the error strewn (or so it appeared to me) full back on display that day.

Can someone also tell me if Saints have some injuries at the moment, as it is a bit unclear from the commentary team, I wasn't sure if I heard them mention something about Saints having some players out (yet all their spine players playing) but I may have missed it

Nope never heard any mention of injuries the whole match. Did hear feel sorry for Wellens a couple of times though.

They had the luxury of selecting one their regular halfbacks as a substitute.

They could have played Welsby at fullback and Dodd at 7, which would have given them all their spine in the correct positions.

Agree about Robertson, his time will come, bur he looked very ordinary when Dufty went past him for his try.

have out!

It's funny, take a gander at the comments by every team's fans (yes, fully including saints fans) every week and it's the same script every time. It's almost like this stuff isn't biased at all and RL fans are uniquely prone to whinging for the sake of it.

On a serious note, I agree with your summation of both the Wire performance and ours. We were incredibly rubbish with ball in hand and I don't see it getting better this year.

On the Sky coverage, it's a bit crap. It's been crap for a really long time, although I'd argue that it's been slightly less crap this season when compared to the last 5 at least. I also found the Matt Peet close access cringe last week, and ditto the Sam Burgess close access cringe this week, but I won't criticise too much as at least they're trying new stuff to keep things fresh. It won't all work. Hope they sack it off soon though

(Fully including Saints fans) made me chuckle….yeah not half mate. Have you seen Redvee TV??

Agree on the changing room/coach stuff….I wasn’t a fan.

I was never trying to say we were any better! It all annoys me

Your post is like being in a teams meeting with a colleague, and you've both got your mikes turned on

To be fair I was probably in a TEAMs meeting when I was typing it.

Just watched the game as I've been away... really surprised no-one has mentioned the first try and the house saints full back going in to Ashton with his knees...thought it was dirty and worthy of at least a sin-binning.

Yes I saw that but then the players didnt react so I thought it was just me.

Yeah the ref missed this Tomkins special didn't they

Do I win a prize for getting all four on the checklist



By the way I said he looks like he would go on to be a good player, but I just think at the moment he is overhyped based off one game, will he make it, who knows, Wigan players of the past have been littered with the next big thing, then they just don't go on to reach their potential, I just wish the Sky pundits would stop over egging them when they have barely played a game

It’s what Sky do, remember the other big thing Harry Newman. They don’t speak about him so much these days. Anyways on our game imo Saints got away with a few.

if anyone knows a location where i can watch a re-run of the game (or a location on the net where it might be available), could they send me a DM please.

YouTube

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Pretty sure the Sky commentary (Carney?) said Tom Whitehead was not used, after I watched the game back.
I didn’t see him play, but I did see him come over to us clapping.

Sky were wrong, whitehead got on, last 5 mins

im on my 4th watch of this now.... the 2nd half is simply amazing.

we score via Holroyd.. Drinkwater is lining up the conversion... barrie mac 'and saints with all these injuries'. It gets me every single time haha.

thats the best 2nd half i can remember from a warrington team..... we bullied them relentlessly. Massively one sided. It gets better on each viewing.

4th watch lmao.