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| give him a sniff and hes one of the best,but in defence hes shocking ,was for us and it doesn't look as though its improved,but still time for him,
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| OK - scored 2 tries but how well did he play otherwise?
Interested ?
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Looking for work? (no puns about P45's please....)
Defensively?
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| He's not the most agile of wingers but scores trys, none of our wingers are particularly defencively sound key often shoots in too early. I think it's his attitude that has seen him droppednot necessarily his performances.
Hopefully this will bring him back down to earth and he can knuckle down and really kick on. I think we need to calm ourselves here he's on course for 30+ trys this season yet some are still moaning!! An observation from the widnes game only one try scored on opposite wing to Kev, without lineham on other wing we lose a massive try threat. I believe what we gain in attack with him outweighs his defensive shortcomings. He has signed for a fee, in a new town and probably on more money too, if this.is his blip then it's been nipped in the bud early and hopefully it will spur him on to fight for his spot back.
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| He's still very young and will get better with experience. Ryan Hall was of similar ability at the same age.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Two tries for Lineham this afternoon but Rochdale could only manage a draw with Toulouse.'"
That was a good result for the Hornets. apparently this was a very bad tempered match. Alan Kilshaw was very critical of some of the Toulouse tactics and one of their players was put on report for biting.
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| A post from Lefty has prompted me to ask the question.
Good or Dud?
He looks more overweight than the start of the season and can he turn at the hips?
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| I'm more worried by the amount of missed tackles from Westerman yesterday
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| Well, now you've resurected the thread duckie, I STILL can't make my mind up.
I've always said (in any sport) never drop/sell a scorer. The lad does what he"s paid to do. Score tries. However, his "efforts" in defence and general play, leave a lot to be desired.
The ones I feel sorry for, are Smith and Moran. Smith, for going to Moran and asking him to buy TL, and Moran for giiving Hull £150,000 (in an era where tranfer fees are as rare as Thursfield tries).
I'd say that there's a lot of collective egg on faces, regarding Lineham (including himself). That "effort" for the try down his wing, was, at best, poor.
The best thing about the whole wing situation, is that our best winger, is Kevin Penny, who has been pilloried since 2008. There's time for Lineham to reach the standards that we (the fans and club) desire.
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| I thought both Lineham and Bailey looked to have slimmed down and toned up.
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| In the first half, Lineham actually gave Solomona the outside and nailed him, taking him into touch. I recall the incident specifically because, such was my shock, I over-dunked a Rich Tea biscuit and ruined a perfectly good cuppa.
Fortunately, one fresh brew and about 15 mins later normality was restored when he got totally done for pace, in a manner I've not seen done as convincingly since some 80 year old dear elbowed me out of the way, sherry glass in hand and stockinged-legs going like pistons, at last orders in the Bulls Head.
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| imo looks to have lost a yard of pace, he had serious leg problems with us and am wondering if hes not 100% right,
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| What you mean won't run legs problem?
It's odd that the fitness of the squad seems to have improved on.last seasons yet his seems to have regressed a little.
He started the game reasonably, when he took ball from Russell I thought right he.is up fir this but just faded out and seemed like was knackered before first half was over.
People Ave made a lot of gidley poor attempt on moores I'd say his attempt or lack of it for solomonas try was ten times worse for me didn't venue look bothered.
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| Has to be up there with Asotasi in terms of what he offers the side.
He could possibly be the worst, seeing as we paid so much for him.
Someone should be up on a gross misconduct charge for this one.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Has to be up there with Asotasi in terms of what he offers the side.
He could possibly be the worst, seeing as we paid so much for him.
Someone should be up on a gross misconduct charge for this one.'"
Lol...
I just had a vision of us doing a (saints style slag your own team chant) "what the feck in hell was that?"
Ar'you Asotasi in disguise?
Are you Asotasi in disguise?
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| I cannot understand why we signed him, and paid money. The guy is a unit and cant tackle for toffee, and he has no pace and doesn't even seem to want to play, I haven't seen him play a decent game yet. Not good, we need to be getting better players, I can't understand what is going wrong with the recruitment of our team, its the same year on year
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| I can't understand why we signed players with serious injuries like Dodds, Wheeler & Bailey although the jury is obviously still out on Bailey's eventual contribution to the Wire. Add to that long term injuries to Harrison ,Grix ,Ben Evans & Laithwaite & it is easier to see why we are struggling with lack of available player rotation.
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| Yes I agree Nine, we have Bailey back now, but Wheeler and Dodds are known for being injury prone. Perhaps Mr Smith needs to take up the offer from Catalan to Koukash on recruitment tips!
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| Quote ="wolfygirl"Yes I agree Nine, we have Bailey back now, but Wheeler and Dodds are known for being injury prone. Perhaps Mr Smith needs to take up the offer from Catalan to Koukash on recruitment tips!'"
Thats a bit harsh.
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| There really isn't such a thing as 'injury prone'. Some players are damn unlucky though.
Warrington have had very good value out of players with a reputation for being the physios best friend.
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| I would like to know how ppl come to the conclusion.dodds is injury prone!!
We got tom.lineham to score trys which he has done. But the effort.other areas has fallen well short. Tho its way too early to write him off and some of the reactions on.here are laughable as bad a signing as roy!! I recall similar grumbles when we signed henry faafili. He too was not fast or agile enough for a winger and was a terrible signing, king was garbage and should have been sent back!! Paul rauhihi was not good enough because he did not waltz through defences and we should have terminated his contract after half a season.
I feel for our new signings as if they don't hit the ground running and set sl alight they are garbage when really they don't live up to many fans high expectations. Or fit their idea of what a winger prop whatever should be.
The money paid is negligible compared to football's speculation buys of 10-30m on a prospect.
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| Is this someone who is NOT prone to injury???? Taken from Wikipedia!
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Dodds played 11 games for the Broncos and he scored his First NRL try against the Raiders in Round 13, But in round 21 against the Knights Mitchell suffered an ACL injury which ended his season but not only his season the following season as well and didn't play for 16 Months.
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Mitchell didn't play any first grade in 2014 due to an ACL injury suffered the previous season in a game against the Knights.
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In Round 8 there were fears Mitchell had done his ACL for the third time in less than 2 years but luckily it was medial ligament damage. Doods Returned in Round 15 for the Broncos in the win over the Storm and has played since due to teammate Josh McGuire suffering a season ending Achillies injury the following week against the Knights.
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| If you think someone getting a broken leg is due to them being injury prone, you are an idiot and shouldn't be allowed near electrical equipment.
Also, in your list above two of them refer to the same injury.
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook" I feel for our new signings as if they don't hit the ground running and set sl alight they are garbage when really they don't live up to many fans high expectations. Or fit their idea of what a winger prop whatever should be.
The money paid is negligible compared to football's speculation buys of 10-30m on a prospect.'"
I agree that in comparison to football the money paid is negligible. However, shirley the correct comparative is what fees are paid across the board for other rugby league players, that's the market we are in?
I don't have the exact figures at my fingertips, but, I given what is banded about, it doesn't stack up to what any club should pay for 'only a prospect'. Rightly or wrongly the level of fee will affect expectations
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| Quote ="just_browny"If you think someone getting a broken leg is due to them being injury prone, you are an idiot and shouldn't be allowed near electrical equipment.
Also, in your list above two of them refer to the same injury.'"
I see your angle j_b.
Let me use your metaphor to see if your opinion is lightened.
If Dobbs was indeed an electrical appliance, and some of which are faulty, but it this case let's assume the item isn't like you said.
Now providing the item is used correctly then it is very likely to continue working, without maintenance, beyond it's recommend working life.
However if the item is misused during its lifespan, then it's highly probable it would break, either it perminant or repairable.
Misused is what could validate the label of injury prone to Dobbs. It's not about how strong his muscles and bones are but rather the technique and/or positions he puts them in.
Technique is what makes certain players put more head tackles in than others. What make players miss tackles more than others and likewise what puts themselves in a position to be more likey to come off with an injury than another.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I see your angle j_b.
Let me use your metaphor to see if your opinion is lightened.
If Dobbs was indeed an electrical appliance, and some of which are faulty, but it this case let's assume the item isn't like you said.
Now providing the item is used correctly then it is very likely to continue working, without maintenance, beyond it's recommend working life.
However if the item is misused during its lifespan, then it's highly probable it would break, either it perminant or repairable.
Misused is what could validate the label of injury prone to Dobbs. It's not about how strong his muscles and bones are but rather the technique and/or positions he puts them in.
Technique is what makes certain players put more head tackles in than others. What make players miss tackles more than others and likewise what puts themselves in a position to be more likey to come off with an injury than another.'"
I think his point is that he has only had 3 injuries (ACL, Knee ligament & Wrist injury) he therefore shouldn't really be labelled as injury prone. He was only out so long with the ACL due to a post Op infection - similar to Bailey only much worse. I would say wherever he is next year, he needs a good run in terms of number off appearances, or he may struggle in future.
Oh and its Dodds, not Dobbs
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