I don't think we've beaten them at home since 2011 either. Two regular season matches and a play off loss. Bring it on as you say.

You do know that you've inadvertantly made it legitimate to refer to Warrington as 'Wazza' and Perpignan as 'Perpy', two crimes even worse than players first names.

catalans as Cats, that really grinds my gears

Rob Burrows

The Asda

Rather treat it as a St Helens away game, considering we've not lost yet at the Stadium of Little Cladding.

Stains, Dire, Dull FC/KR, Silverspud, Whinos.

Back in 2002 using this years squad, that would have read as:

Ratchy
Riley-y
Bridgey
Atkinsy
Joel Monasy
Mickey Monasy
Mylery
Asotasi-y
Highamy
Hilly
Trenty
Benny
Grixy

Englandy
Curriey
Riley-y
Dwyery

The excessive use of a Y at the end of a surname back then to form a nickname shown on the old official Wire site was ridiculous. Briersey, Burnsey, Smythey, Woody and so on.

agree it's tiresome as is Fanny/wendyball, koucash, nocash and Demics

The main question is who will play at 6. Monaghan or O'Brien?

Run at Makinson and Turner all night, Turner has a tendancy to fly out of the line and flap like a headless chicken. And if it's raining it's kicking low and hard throughout.

Heard from a squad member today, Mona's at 6, g.o.b on the bench..and to expect saints left hand side to get a peppering.

Turner is likely to play at 6 with Jones at right centre who is an excellent defender. If we have a weak link defensively it is Percival at left centre.

Oh I do hope so. Turner at half-back makes Lance Hoheia-thingy look like Andrew Johns.

Plenty of pressure (particularly on his kicking game) on Walsh as he's the only true half-back they have, kick Lomax (assuming he's FB) to the corners, get Ratchford on the ball and in quickly at acting half to run broken field and invite penalties and please, please, please it's not August it's the wettest winter since Noah popped down the shipyard so no miracle passes or dumb offloads.

Sadly, he doesn't. Even turner at 6 is an improvement on lance hohaia! Only josh perry saves him from being our worst signing in a very long time!

Anyway, it might be turner or it might be wheeler. Who even knows with brown!

fully expect a Warrington win however i wont be pressing the panic buttons after one game. Long hard season ahead for both clubs and its a nice litttle boost getting a win but not the end of the world losing either.

Hope both teams have a great game, see you Thursday.

Just run at Wheeler he gets injured thinking about playing rugby! Shame really as hes a good player.

""Our weakness at the moment is in the front row""
Why Asotasi and Hill starting Props with westwood, waterhouse, riley, england. I think our pack is equal to last season where we had carvel and hill whilst we carried Morley.
Loos better this season to me.

Agreed. Hill is a player I think will come into his own this year and lead from the front, think he is a great player!

Our strength and key to our whole season will be the fitness and continuity of the centres.
An ever present Bridge and Atkins and Wire will steamroller this season.

In fact, is that the only time we've beaten them at the H&J?

I think it is yes. We both seem to prefer playing away in this fixture!

Entirely my view: the threequarters are the key to our success. Get the ball wide and early.

While I agree on the Hill point, Asotasi was only playing 15 mins or so in each stint while at Souths, and with Wood being out, will have to play much longer minutes. A lot of minutes coming for two of Riley/England/Evans, I just hope they are ready. No doubt when Wood and Harrison are fit again, it's a strong pack, but I think at the moment we are going in a bit light against very good Saints and Leeds packs.

I agree with Asotasi's minutes for souths but i dont think it had anything to do with his fitness. He had the 3/4 burgess brothers along with Geoff Lima also playing so the minutes were shared out. You could say the same about george and tom burgess, but they showed in the world cup that they could do extra minutes when needed.