Can't see why anyone can blame the ref. He gave a couple of dodgy decisions for both sides.

We just didn't play smart rugby for the conditions. Also gave away some stupid penalties in the first half that let Saints build up momentum with plenty of possession.

Will be a serious test now of how we bounce back and learn from our mistakes.

I'm not convinced that was wrong. It was touched by Warrington and Saints didn't touch it until Wilkin (?) tried to ground it with his knee on the line and the ball over it.

and cunningham's blatant knock on at the play the ball a few plays before he scored in the corner ?

Why blame the ref for this lost ? He gave some bad decisions but he is not to blame for the loss tonight as much as i dont like him. We weren't good enough tonight simple as. Error after error, Passing the ball into touch. Play light that next week and its goodbye Warrington for another year. Just not good enough.

You can't penalise the King in his castle can you?

Keith Senior was really on to something when he called Silverwood arrogant...Can't believe he didn't refer the Flannery try to the video ref....
Despite Saddened's bias..Riley was tackled in mid air simple as that...

But our performance was very poor tonight deserved what we got....

I agree that blaming the ref is pointless - a few big decisions could have gone either way, for both teams.

I do think a few 'easy' penalties were given at 'game changing' points in the game - going Saints way and giving them constant possession. But they say you make your own luck and Saints don't need a second chance when it comes to finding the line. Saints deserved the win on the back of playing a better suited game to the weather.

One thing I do dislike about Saints tho is their constant bitching to the ref. Graham totally throws his dummy out from the word go, and with Cunningham and that new young winger mithering and whining to Silverwood, they often got the decision they wanted. Don't get me wrong Briers and Monas like to have a word, but tonight I thought Saints were ridiculous. Silverwood should have had the balls to penalise them a couple of times.

Graham and Cunningham aren't too bad, they at least discuss the incidents or attempt to make their point. For example when Graham was penalised for being elbowed by Clarke.

It's Wellens you need to worry about, he stamps his feet down together like he's going to do the haka and waves his arms like a bird trying to take off whilst screaming at the ref to "F&^% off".

it was a very poor performance we looked like the team playing without our recognised half backs! but the referee definitely didnt help tonight. i was mostly dissapointed by our lack of enthusiasm when walking back to scrums etc when there was still 17 minutes left on the clock and 3 tries in it. there was nothing from warrington after the first 6 minutes that showed me they really wanted the win tonight.

I thought the stadard of reffing was very poor tonight, for Wire and Saints. He missed *a lot* and got a lot wrong too. On saying that, regardless of the standard of ref we still we have lost tonight. I echo some of the previous comments: I really hope we are luring teams into a false sense of security....

You can't really blame the ref only thing i believe he may of got wrong was not going to the video ref after foster possibly took our riley in the air

Maybe we should bitch and moan against the ref if it gets results. That's of course when we have mastered being able to complete a set and not pass into touch.

One of the worst retting performances I've ever seen. But that was not the reason we lost, we were completley outplayed.

Just watched the sky + watch the replay, then repost. Blatant!

Dont think we would have won tonight based on the performance. Age old problme of trying to force the pass (and not being able to cope with wet conditions) but as a real competition the ref spolit it. School boy play-ground rugby with a let referee ourselves would have resulted in a better flowing game (and with fewer screwups!)

Cant believe this. What about wire's second try, a direct result of a penalty that should have gone the other way? Clarke clearly elbowed the fat ginger lad in the head! The ref even spoke to Clarke about it after the try was given and he had seen it on the screen.

Still all the refs fault I suppose

you can lay blame on everybody all week if it sooths the humiliation of yet another defeat at the hands of Saints, but the truth is you ain't good enough and Briers always goes missing against Saints, the one thing to look forward to is there must be a time when the law of averages dictates you must win!!!!!!!!!!

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Who's humiliated? I'm not. I expected a defeat and that it what I got.

Tell you what, if we go back there in the semi final and actually beat Saints at the definitive last ever game at Knowsley Road, THAT will be humiliating. You'll be crying into your white lightning bottle for weeks if that happens.

what a tool

like i said there must come a time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but to say if you win next time after 30+ wins by us will be a humiliation for Saints is bigging it up a tad dont ya think ? though knowing how wire speccies operate it wouldn't surprise me one jot !!!!!!! wipe out the history of the last 15 years and slap yourselves on the back

Briers did not go missing...Monaghan did which was suprising

Why? Which of those don't you agree with? Which incidents do you think the referee got wrong?

The ref gave a few bad decisions both ways, and yes they led to a few tries but Silverwood doesn't drop the ball or miss tackles, end of the day the ref makes a decision you suck it up and get on with it, we didn't and saints did simple as really

Happy first post!!!

and it was a good one



The ref was awful but at the end of the day Warrington didn't play well.