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| Quote ="gary numan"Pathetic defending, take Livett off he's not at the races tonight'"
He has had a rough night to be fair, we will be very lucky to nick this one now.
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| Been a good game this, they have done the basics right all game, had some lucky bounces but worked their socks off. Very few errors and good discipline. A credit to the club. Well done cas.
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| More like absolute bobbins by Warrington.
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| Gone from nilling Wigan to letting in 34 points.Shocking defence tonight.
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| .....and some posters on here think goalkickers are irrelevant....
Tell me again
We got what we deserved. Nowt.
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| Like I said, some lucky bounces but the team that made fewer errors and Completed more sets won. They've done that without a lot of regulars, we've conceded too many soft points but that's credit to cas putting pressure on us and following everything up. Disappointing result. Well done cas.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt".....and some posters on here think goalkickers are irrelevant....
Tell me again
We got what we deserved. Nowt.'"
6 tries to 5 and lose
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| This match proves ....
1) Patton is nowhere near the answer at Half back. When Brown went off we looked v.poor.
2) We are a different side once Hill goes off.
3) We need to choose a goal kicker who can kick at 70%+ and stick with them.
3) Livett needs a spell out of the side. Poor tonight.
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| Quote ="gary numan"6 tries to 5 and lose'"
Exactly. We treat goals like a joke when they are worth 50% of a try.
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| Quote ="Wires71"This match proves ....
1) Patton is nowhere near the answer at Half back. When Brown went off we looked v.poor.
2) We are a different size once Hill goes off.
3) We need to choose a goal kicker who can kick at 70%+ and stick with them.
3) Livett needs a spell out of the side. Poor tonight.'"
You forgot point 4
When under pressure/losing, we become a penalty machine
Oh, and point 5
Roberts, after his "worldie" (not my words) reverts to type.
Was he even there?
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| Both akola and bmm are a double edge sword for me. Both can do plenty of damage to the opposition but equally they can both keep throwing lifelines to them with penalties.
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| Again, Akoala largely anonymous. Danny Limaesque
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| And it's doing my head listening to carney and Clarke talking about how cas out played Warrington. Now whilst we should have done better. Warrington scored More tries, not outplayed but beaten by goal kicking, so cas were out played.
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| Quote ="gary numan"And it's doing my head listening to carney and Clarke talking about how cas out played Warrington. Now whilst we should have done better. Warrington scored More tries, not outplayed but beaten by goal kicking, so cas were out played.'"
Follow my lead, pal.
PAY NO ATTENTION TO PUNDITRY
After the game, turn the telly off.
I know what I've seen. I don't need Jon Wellzzz to tell me.
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| Full credit to Cas they hung in there got a bit of luck along the way and deserved there win , put it to bed and move on plenty of work to be done
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt".....and some posters on here think goalkickers are irrelevant....
Tell me again
We got what we deserved. Nowt.'"
Oh no not again. Have you come up with a name yet?
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| Roberts was fine - we scored enough tries to win a game.
The two major disasters were Livett and Murdoch-Masila: neither did any defending worthy of the name.
The commentary from Hemmings was utterly shocking; probably as bad as I have known. And then he claimed to be neutral at the end.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Oh no not again. Have you come up with a name yet?'"
No. That's the job of director of rugby/head of recruitment/coach
I'm just a humble fan.
You carry on with "oh no, not again" attitude, and leave your head in the sand
WE HAVE A PROBLEM. IT NEEDS ATTENTION.
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| I don't know what it is about players when they've just signed contracts but both Livett and Patton stunk the place out tonight.
Some of the players were clearly running on empty after the Wigan game but that's when you expect your bench to man up, dig in for their team and up the workrate and the subs, Philbin apart, were rubbish.
BMM wobbling around, getting in the way and more of a liability than a drunk uncle in flammable clothing at a fairly barbie.
Akola, Asotasi or whatever he's called thinking a hatful of penalties and a try represents a good evenings work and then Dec making everyone pray there was a hooker-only clause in that contract.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"No. That's the job of director of rugby/head of recruitment/coach
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You carry on with "oh no, not again" attitude, and leave your head in the sand
WE HAVE A PROBLEM. IT NEEDS ATTENTION.'"
Spot on.
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| 1 very good goal kicker is much better than 5/6 average ones. As someone pointed out at least stick with ONE for a while. Changing all the time and mid-game is sloppy and ends up costing you. Ratchford was kicking very well earlier in the season (especially away at cas) and lost that role for no apparent reason.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"No. That's the job of director of rugby/head of recruitment/coach
I'm just a humble fan.
You carry on with "oh no, not again" attitude, and leave your head in the sand
WE HAVE A PROBLEM. IT NEEDS ATTENTION.'"
Yep. I agree it is a problem. It was your very repetitive simple idea that you go out and "buy a kicker" repeated several times that made me question you. I know kicking is important, you know kicking is important, we all know kicking is important ... but you can't just go out mid-season and buy a kicker.
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| Fair result in the end, we didn’t do enough to win.
Goal kicking was poor, defending was poor across the board and anyone from Livett to Hughes to Lineham to Atkins to Goodwin were anonymous in attack and Patton had a stinker.
We all looked tired in the first five minutes.
But it’s only one game, only one loss, we’ll have more important games this season, some will be against Cas. Just need to make sure the mentality and application is right for those games
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| As I've said before. Trophy winning sides have TOP NOTCH kickers, not just "can doers" .
We've lost a game we should have walked. Fair play to Cas. They've turned up with a hotchpotch side, and got the win. We score 20 unanswered points, and then take the foot of the gas. Unprofessional. But missed conversions are, on the whole, self destructive.
Price needs to get someone as his kicker, and have him practice, practice, PRACTICE.
Great kickers aren't born. They do it through practice.
Botica didn't just hope for the best.
Yaya never missed a penalty for City
Jordan Speith (who is regarded as the best putter in world golf) isn't just lucky when he gets on the green.
They PRACTICE so it's like shelling peas.
We need to make the best of a bad job, now..
Price needs to trust his judgement, and pick a kicker, and get him to practice RELENTLESSLY.
And come October, make sure we've got one for 2019.
Kicks win matches
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| Quote ="gary numan"And it's doing my head listening to carney and Clarke talking about how cas out played Warrington. Now whilst we should have done better. Warrington scored More tries, not outplayed but beaten by goal kicking, so cas were out played.'"
You didn't play us Gary, no way. We made 200 meters more than you, missed less tackles, completed more sets and kicked at goal and ultimately scored more points which is the aim of the game . Your arrogance was there for all to see when at 20 20 you declined the kick. We were the better side tonight and thoroughly deserved the win.
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