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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"I quite like the fact that it's on Sunday rather than Friday night or Saturday. Whether he admits it or not, Tony Smith will know who we are playing as soon as the final hooter goes at Headingley on Friday. He then has an extra day and a half to start preparing for the semi before our opponents are told who they're playing against. Small advantage margins like that can make a difference.'"
He'll be 99% certain who we are playing when the final hooter goes Thursday night. Even better eh!
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| If Hull win, then yeah he will. I'm still convinced we'll pick the lowest ranked though no matter who it is, so if Huddersfield win tonight then we'll be playing the winner of Leeds V Saints.
The fact that everyone will be guessing while we're preparing is good though.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"If Hull win, then yeah he will. I'm still convinced we'll pick the lowest ranked though no matter who it is, so if Huddersfield win tonight then we'll be playing the winner of Leeds V Saints.
The fact that everyone will be guessing while we're preparing is good though.'"
I don't think anyone will be guessing. I'm amazed that there's anyone who thinks we will pick anybody other than the lowest ranked team.
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| Quote ="NtW"I don't think anyone will be guessing. I'm amazed that there's anyone who thinks we will pick anybody other than the lowest ranked team.'"
I think you'll pick hudds if they win tonight.
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| Quote ="NtW"I don't think anyone will be guessing. I'm amazed that there's anyone who thinks we will pick anybody other than the lowest ranked team.'"
I think you'll pick hudds if they win tonight.
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| Personally I think that you shouldn't be able to pick the same team that you played in the first weekend of the playoffs. So if Leeds beat Saints we have to play either Hull or Huddersfield, only if the losers in week 1 go on to lose again in week 2 should the highest ranked team get a choice.
Playing the same team twice in two weeks of the playoffs is quite ridiculous, once you beat a team it should be impossible to meet them again until the final.
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| But what if Hull win ? They have beaten us twice convincingly ,but TS says to be the best you need to beat the best .
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| No danger of hull being in the mix 14 mins into this game at 24-0 down.
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| People still thinking Huddersfield?
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| Looks like Hull have already had their Mad Monday, and it stretched into Tuesday, Wednesday and is still in full swing come Thursday. How on earth did a team that can be this shambolic beat us in the semi?
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| Say what you like about Hull's defending but you can't take anything away from Huddersfield there. They have well and truly come to the play off party tonight. Hopefully they'll be as good against Wigan next week because there is surely no doubt now that our opponents are playing tomorrow.
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| Does it matter??....Simple fact is, if we play to our best we will beat whoever we choose to play. It might sound arrogant, but I think most neutral observers feel the same - Even Nathan Brown admitted as such a few weeks ago after we beat them.
The only side I feel can challenge us at our best is Wigan - The game at the HJ this year was the best game of RL played in our comp all season and we had to take a lot of pressure to see them off.
Just choose the lowest ranked side and play to our best, if not, and we get beat, then just take it on the chin and admit we wasn't good enough on the day.
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| I say set Huddersfield against Wigan simple as that.
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| I can't see Huddersfield playing like that two games running.
Years of getting stuffed by Saints tell me that you can NEVER write them off, and can you imagine playing them next week with 3.5 thousand of their fans cheering them on, no thanks.
You can also never write Leeds off in this particular comp.
So I think we should pick Huddersfield next week. forget the protocol, if it backfires on us, so be it. We're a big club in a big competition, competing against top sides, there's no shame in losing. Let Wigan battle it out against saints or Leeds.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"I can't see Huddersfield playing like that two games running.
Years of getting stuffed by Saints tell me that you can NEVER write them off, and can you imagine playing them next week with 3.5 thousand of their fans cheering them on, no thanks.
You can also never write Leeds off in this particular comp.
So I think we should pick Huddersfield next week. forget the protocol, if it backfires on us, so be it. We're a big club in a big competition, competing against top sides, there's no shame in losing. Let Wigan battle it out against saints or Leeds.'"
Wire scared of saints and Leeds.
Choose the Giants and if you win you will give your final opponents the biggest boost they could have.
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| Not scared, but we've been bitten by those two clubs more than we have by the Giants. To be honest, if we didn't pick the Giants and instead send them to Wigan, I can see you folding like a pack of cards and virtually giving Wigan a bye to the final.
Like I said, if it backfires and motivates the Giants to shove our decision down our throats so be it, we're not kids.
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| Can we pick Hull please.
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| we ARE gonna beat you again sometime, why not In a play off semi or even grand final itself?
I have thought all along that most people see us as the weaker of the big 5( league table wise) and would pick us,despite TS saying he would pick the lowest ranked team.
I think you will call us out despite this, therefore proving to baloo and our boys that you believe we are the weakest team.
see you next Thursday
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| Oh I hope they choose us. No better way to motivate our side. Every time we have lost a game this season we have come back and put in a great performance to win. Choosing us will motivate us just as much as a loss IMO.
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| I honestly can't believe people are still discussing this. It's a non-event; we're playing Leeds or Saints, purely because of league positioning. Should be a cracking game regardless of who it is.
I think Wigan will be too good for Huddersfield again, so this is the chance to finally land the Wire-Wigan final that's been on the cards for the past 3 seasons. Will one or both or us cock it up again?!?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Wire scared of saints and Leeds.
Choose the Giants and if you win you will give your final opponents the biggest boost they could have.'"
Absolute drivel.
Every team and player will be properly prepared without any cod schoolboy psychology.
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| But it just isn't as easy as saying pick the lowest ranked club. Saints had major injury woes through the season but, towards the back end, managed to win 7 or their last nine. Equally, Leeds have won 6 of their last 9. Shouldn't we be looking at recent form rather than using a league position that, potentially, have been effected by results some 4 or 5 months ago?!?!
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| Quote ="mark_m"Absolute drivel.
Every team and player will be properly prepared without any cod schoolboy psychology.'"
Not what Barry McDermott was saying 'ther night on back chat, and he had a few high intensity matches, so I think he knows what he's talking about on that score
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| Quote ="Paullie"But it just isn't as easy as saying pick the lowest ranked club. Saints had major injury woes through the season but, towards the back end, managed to win 7 or their last nine. Equally, Leeds have won 6 of their last 9. Shouldn't we be looking at recent form rather than using a league position that, potentially, have been effected by results some 4 or 5 months ago?!?!'"
I agree with this. League position is usually a good guide but Leeds, St Helens & Wigan have had spells during the season where they have had several of their best players missing. Huddersfield have not been hit so badly with injuries. So I think you need to be very wary of thinking that Huddersfield are the best side because they finished top. I've heard the phrase the "table doesn't lie" but I think it can be misleading without all the facts taken into account. The big guns in each side are now playing.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire" Years of getting stuffed by Saints tell me that you can NEVER write them off, and can you imagine playing them next week with 3.5 thousand of their fans cheering them on, no thanks.
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Our record against the Stains with TS in charge for a full season are even, with six wins apiece
2010
H loss 26-24
A loss 28-12
Playoff A loss 28-12
2011
H win 35-28
A win 25-18
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H loss 28-16
A win 22-12
Playoff qualifier H loss 28-6
Playoff semi A win 36-18
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H loss 22-10
A win 29-16
Magic win 48-22
And over the last two seasons we've won four lost three. The history of not being able to beat the Stains is over, with more recent games between the two clubs being pretty much even. Let's not have this nonsense about Stains being unbeatable. Warrington have turned into a top quality side since TS took over. If you add up all the league points since the 2009 season then we come out second (Wigan top) and if you only look at the 2010-2013 seasons (as Tony had a full pre-season to prepare the squad and instill his philosophies from 2010 onwards) then we come out as the top team.
Now the Wire!!! We can, and have, beaten all of the teams left in the playoffs on a regular basis in the recent past. Fear no one, and I believe we can win the GF whoever plays against us.
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