Yes.

There was absolutely 0 issue with the grounding.

At full speed it didn’t look a try but the replay clearly showed there was no issue.

Yup, 2 aged wingers on the bench, a hooker and a young prop. Would've rather had 2 young props if not three. You can always cycle 2nd row to centre if needed, but banging an old winger on for a prop is a bit of an ask.

He has to learn from that for next week otherwise we’ll lose again.

Saints are poor, you will be fine next week.

They're a quality side, they won't always be poor this season, we go in to the game with the same depth of pack so they have a great chance to turn us over. Won't be by much though if they do.

Are you a Wigan fan or Wakefield fan? Genuinely confused.

Remain that way.

Some people clearly need to learn the rules of the game you are watching.

1: the O’Neil try. The interpretation of the rules is there has to be no separation between hand and ball until it is grounded. The replay showed that clearly.

2: The drinkwater no try. Vaughan knocked the ball forward onto the defender.

3: The Minkin no try. These ones frustrate me. It was the correct call because the ref sends it up as a no try and the VR can’t prove otherwise. There was definitely some movement in the ball. If the ref sends it up as a try the VR gives it. The call was correct under the current rules, I don’t agree with the rules but that’s a different argument.

Grounding of first try fine, but there was a player offside - definite no try.
Drinkwater try, Vaughan knock on - no try.
Minikin try all day long.

No try/try should’ve been scrapped ages ago.

1. He grounded it fine. However, he was that far offside he may as well been ordering an overpriced Guiness in the East Stand concourse.

The best team on the night won.
We didn't help ourselves with errors/pens.
The standard of video ref calls was poor.
We should not have had 2 backs on the bench.
We're missing forwards.
Wigan got 2 points for winning (& the Locker Cup)
We're top of SL after almost getting relegated last year.
The GF is in October....it's only April now.
Lessons learned & no need to panic.

O'Neill is level with French's back foot when he kicks. Like most humans, French kicked with the foot that was in front.

Spot on mate, somebody talking sense. The best team won and the score line doesn’t reflect Wigan’s dominance. Drinkwater is a lightweight, Williams needs a dominant pack. Wires back line is too lightweight in such conditions.

Are you saying Powell is clueless?

You are now talking rubbish. We have some outstanding backs to come back into the squad who will improve us. I wouldn’t worry too much about your pack it is your backs that are lightweight, if Williams gets injured you are in trouble.

You are now talking rubbish. We have some outstanding backs to come back into the squad who will improve us. I wouldn’t worry too much about your pack it is your backs that are lightweight, if Williams gets injured you are in trouble.

Both were tries in my view. Wigan were also the better side by a country mile.

On a dry patch we would have blown you away tonight.

The Minikin one was a shocker. Even with it going up as a no try, I thought it was clearly grounded. I thought the rest were correct though

You should have yet with all that territory you didn’t, we had one prop on the field and Sam who’s a bench player. You should’ve dominated the game and you did congratulations but wigan with all that pressure should’ve put on a cricket score and you never. Our backs will be fine when we have more props available to share the workload, Just like your creativity will be fine when you have your players back but tonight wigan just about got by despite all their field possession in the first half against a busted forward pack with no bench to help.

Zig - Ignore list, go away.

The video ref comments make it even more bizarre when they are saying about the hand still being on the ball, and then suddenly it’s No Try.

So little time left it didn’t matter, but it did seem really suspicious.

I thought it was our first poor performance in what has been an outstanding year. We looked tired and sluggish from the start and were off the pace for the whole game. Wigan out enthused us. As others have said though, 8/9 and top of the league is way beyond what I was expecting at this stage. I did think the bench selection was odd and hope we have a more forward orientated bench next Thursday.

As a side point, not sure why Green wasn’t given the ball once in his spell on the pitch. That was a bit odd.

Wigan deserved to win and the interesting thing for me now is how we respond against Saints with basically the same team.
We were bound to lose at some point - just gutted it was this match.
Dudsons' stupidity cost us that game. No-one else in my view.

I couldn't believe they allowed the first try - at least 3 off side at the kick (both feet need to be behind the ball at the kick remember). That was a really poor decision and seems to be glossed over by the video ref and the commentators. He had a bit of a mare.

The second try looked bounced but when looked at it slo-mo it didn't for me.

Correct decision on the Drinky no try and I can see why he disallowed the Minikin try but that could have gone either way.

Wigan's defensive effort was impressive, and we never were really allowed to get into the match. They bombed 3 or 4 chances and we could have been 20 down at half time. We never built pressure and made errors at key times.
Smith had a better kicking game than our halves. They also managed to slow the ruck better than we did - that's my interpretation.

Surprised that DP has said we might be getting 1 prop back next week - Harrison presumably as he's said Bullock is not ready.

Looked a great atmosphere with a record attendance. Shame about the result.

The trouble is that our back up forwards are obviously deemed not ready yet to play against a top super league side. I think Powell thinks they just wouldn't cope physically & get hurt. So we just had to give Vaughan, Sam & Maguire too long on the pitch & ask our backs to do some tough carries. With that in mind you can see why Russell plays he takes it up as well as anyone.