we have mark.
you could have seen one of them himself training with the team for the last 4 or 5 months!

Jesus not again, will you either put up or shut up.your so full of contradiction its funny, one minute you say we have four new signings then you start a rumor thread, make your mind up which it is.

Can't wait for start of 2014 season ! Then by April rumours will be starting about who we've signed for 2015 cos this lot are a load of carp .

Im not Jesus, I'm a very naughty boy!

I am discounting England. Although I think he still has to prove fitness first.

2 months of rehab on a shoulder reconstruction!

Morley effectively replaced by Asotasi, Williams by Penny, and let's say Cooper by England. I'd say that's a fair renewal of those spots in the squad.
Which leaves Carvell, McCarthy and Hodgson of the departures to be replaced. I'd be hopeful that some of the younger forwards can make the step up to fill the gaps left by Carvell and McCarthy, but it looks like a full-back is needed to me.

The above mentioned players who are leaving do obviously take a deal of experience with them, but we're hardly a bunch of ingenues with the likes of Briers, Westwood, the Monaghans, Higham, Waterhouse and Wood still on the books. Clearly, Saturday was the last hurrah for that squad as it stood, and unfortunately, it ended in defeat. However, I think we may have a better blend of youth and experience next season, and see no reason why we shouldn't be in the mix for trophies again.

Pace didn't lose us the game, but with pace you stand a far greater chance of winning those kinds of games than losing them. With pace you can score from anywhere on the field, a simply intercept can result in six points. An intercept for us results in 20 yards and a fresh set. The game at the HJ against Leeds was a great example of what can be done with speed, a Burrow burst, a Watkins break, it all came from relatively little pressure on the defence. Obviously, it isn't just pace, you need brains, footwork and so on, but the ability to strike from distance, or 'counter strike', really is our biggest weakness for me.

Well we've been linked with Ben Jones-Bishop all season. Not seen anything concrete (not looked to be honest), he'd provide far greater competition for the wing/full back spots. As good as Ratch has been at full back, we may see him pop up at centre on the odd occasion next year, Bridge still doesn't look like the player of old to me.

"Ladies and gentlemen please be upstanding for our latest signing Kevin Penny" this will be a reason he's come back. To provide us some go forward in broken play.

Of course Kev helps, but Kev hasn't proven anything yet so you're running the risk if this is the solution. Let's be honest, if he comes back and picks up where he left off then he isn't going to play very much.

Atkins is as fast as any player in SL isn't he?

nope

And Stef Ratchford definitely is. Joel's not the fastest but definitely makes up for it elsewhere and with Richie Myler fit, he's not exactly slowing the halves down.

I think our lack of pace is either being exaggerated, or is just another thinly veiled "I hate Chris Riley" thread.

We do have quick players those named above. However, the issue as i see it is that we seldom seem to be able to get loose ball a go for the line we always get caught.

20 - 30 metres out we are as good as other teams but further out we definately struggle. Other teams seem to just get the ball and go like the clappers sometime scoring and sometimes gaining much better field position.

I guess genuine pace and a touch of power in the halfs and pace and power on the wings and in the centre. In the forwards front row of pure power and back row with some pace and a ball handing swift running loose will do for next season. That would be nice



We be half way there, who knows?

I don't think it's that we struggle, I think it's that this season we've decided to play a tighter, more forwards oriented game that doesn't rely on throwing the ball about nearly as much. I know we're used to Wire scoring from everywhere, but I think it was deliberate to try and rein that in this season. And you've got to say, with our pack it was pretty effective.

Dont disagree, i have thought that we might be picking up loose ball and then going to ground to get the plays set up and when i think i've seen that we have been very effective. I guess i'm thinking that if we pick up dropped ball while defending we should charge for the line and score, ever the optimist!!

Dont disagree, i have thought that we might be picking up loose ball and then going to ground to get the plays set up and when i think i've seen that we have been very effective. I guess i'm thinking that if we pick up dropped ball while defending we should charge for the line and score, ever the optimist!!

Hate? That's a strong word. If I think we can improve on Riley by signing a world class winger does that make me hate him?



We do lack pace.

We certainly do lack pace at times and it hasn't exactly helped having Myler and Atkins, two players who do have genuine pace, out for long periods with leg injuries.

For christ's sake, you can't even get Monty Python references correct.

Brian's mother said 'He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.'

I know that but he called me Jesus and you got the reference!!!

and he's not Christ, he's a very naughty boy!!

Rubber Duckie / Cullen Is Pants / Panties (delete as appropriate as your all the same person), you truly are a Grade-A Weapon.

You consistently make things up ie, Hock, Graham rumours etc (I could go on) with nothing to back up your ridiculous claims. You are probably the least in-the-know person ever on this board and should just give up because your making yourself look more stupid every time you post. Hence the name changes.

Now please go forth and multiply.

You need to stop smelling that stuff!