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| Didn't watch the game, but surprised at that result. What happened? At least you'll get back on the horse next week if that's any consolation.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Didn't watch the game, but surprised at that result. What happened? At least you'll get back on the horse next week if that's any consolation.'" Wigan had the better forwards. Kasiano may as well have impact sub tattooed on his forehead. Why are we starting him? Should have been Minkin at centre, Mata’utia at 13, McGuire at prop.
Kasiano on the bench with Clark, Whitehead/Thomas and Green.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Just on the video ref decisions, we look silly by claiming the Drinkwater 'no try'. That clearly went forward off Vaughan into the Wigan player.
The other two decisions were outrageous.'"
Totally agree on all 3 decisions. We may have nicked that in the end, it would have been a totally undeserved win though, maybe last week was too.
We should feel confident in that even when we aren't the best team against the best teams in the competition, if we hang in there we may still be able to win. I'd take a 12-5 grand final win after getting beaten all over the park and that's what tonight may have been, if they called the offside (grounding is irrelevant) and then awarded minikins try with no separation downward pressure and no evidence of a knock on.
Wigan deserved it, video referee was appalling, we could have nicked one, on another nogbt we could have nicked one which we didn't deserve, despite the personelle missing. There is no reason to be worried off tonights showing, we can compete with the teams we need to compete with. We will need to be smarter in those conditions though.
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| Only beef I got is why have Wigan got a 9 turnaround.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I'll take a 7 point loss to wigan in wet weather, with that bench, and the entire game was played in our 30.'"
Absolutely. Beat me to it.
We were munched for position by a better pack, and a quality kicking game from Harry Smith.
Looking ahead, despite only a 7 points loss against Wigan with only 1 prop out, and nobody else to come in, they are pretty much where they are, Wigan won’t get much better than that…
Whereas Wire have got another 3/4 gears to come back yet.
Harrison Bullock Dudson Philbin.
Who out of the 2 coaches with feel most comfortable about the coming weeks?
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| Quote ="jonh"Trolling by asking someone to back up their point with a reason.
Sleep it off. Watch it back.
Both teams will be competing for trophies.
It wasn’t your night tonight. You lost to the better team on the night.
Stop crying like a baby and deal with it.
You are a good side and you will come again.'"
Simple question. Do you think O'Neil, not even taking into account the offside, had more control over the ball for his try than Minikin had for his no-try?
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| Quote ="jonh"Trolling by asking someone to back up their point with a reason.
Sleep it off. Watch it back.
Both teams will be competing for trophies.
It wasn’t your night tonight. You lost to the better team on the night.
Stop crying like a baby and deal with it.
You are a good side and you will come again.'"
If the calls were in our favour and not yours you'd probably be taking it worse than we are, because you definitely deserved to win. You watch them again, ask yourself honestly if you'd be happy if that was us scoring against you or you having a try disallowed at tbe death. It was a night of fine margins, although when looking at all the stats, you lot should have blown us out of the water.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Simple question. Do you think O'Neil, not even taking into account the offside, had more control over the ball for his try than Minikin had for his no-try?'"
Yes.
There was absolutely 0 issue with the grounding.
At full speed it didn’t look a try but the replay clearly showed there was no issue.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Referee and video ref were poor but we were worse. Wigan wanted it more and that’s alarming. Powell isn’t at fault either, why is he picking two wingers on the bench? I know Jamie Redecliffe pretty well and he doesn’t take a backwards step, runs hard and tackles hard so not sure why he wasn’t on the bench. Powell got it wrong tonight and we need a big reaction next Thursday.'"
Yup, 2 aged wingers on the bench, a hooker and a young prop. Would've rather had 2 young props if not three. You can always cycle 2nd row to centre if needed, but banging an old winger on for a prop is a bit of an ask.
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| Quote ="Philth"Yup, 2 aged wingers on the bench, a hooker and a young prop. Would've rather had 2 young props if not three. You can always cycle 2nd row to centre if needed, but banging an old winger on for a prop is a bit of an ask.'"
He has to learn from that for next week otherwise we’ll lose again.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"He has to learn from that for next week otherwise we’ll lose again.'"
Saints are poor, you will be fine next week.
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| Quote ="jonh"Saints are poor, you will be fine next week.'"
They're a quality side, they won't always be poor this season, we go in to the game with the same depth of pack so they have a great chance to turn us over. Won't be by much though if they do.
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| Quote ="jonh"Saints are poor, you will be fine next week.'"
Are you a Wigan fan or Wakefield fan? Genuinely confused.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Are you a Wigan fan or Wakefield fan? Genuinely confused.'"
Remain that way.
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| Some people clearly need to learn the rules of the game you are watching.
1: the O’Neil try. The interpretation of the rules is there has to be no separation between hand and ball until it is grounded. The replay showed that clearly.
2: The drinkwater no try. Vaughan knocked the ball forward onto the defender.
3: The Minkin no try. These ones frustrate me. It was the correct call because the ref sends it up as a no try and the VR can’t prove otherwise. There was definitely some movement in the ball. If the ref sends it up as a try the VR gives it. The call was correct under the current rules, I don’t agree with the rules but that’s a different argument.
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| Grounding of first try fine, but there was a player offside - definite no try.
Drinkwater try, Vaughan knock on - no try.
Minikin try all day long.
No try/try should’ve been scrapped ages ago.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Some people clearly need to learn the rules of the game you are watching.
1: the O’Neil try. The interpretation of the rules is there has to be no separation between hand and ball until it is grounded. The replay showed that clearly.
2: The drinkwater no try. Vaughan knocked the ball forward onto the defender.
3: The Minkin no try. These ones frustrate me. It was the correct call because the ref sends it up as a no try and the VR can’t prove otherwise. There was definitely some movement in the ball. If the ref sends it up as a try the VR gives it. The call was correct under the current rules, I don’t agree with the rules but that’s a different argument.'" 1. He grounded it fine. However, he was that far offside he may as well been ordering an overpriced Guiness in the East Stand concourse.
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| The best team on the night won.
We didn't help ourselves with errors/pens.
The standard of video ref calls was poor.
We should not have had 2 backs on the bench.
We're missing forwards.
Wigan got 2 points for winning (& the Locker Cup)
We're top of SL after almost getting relegated last year.
The GF is in October....it's only April now.
Lessons learned & no need to panic.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"1. He grounded it fine. However, he was that far offside he may as well been ordering an overpriced Guiness in the East Stand concourse.'"
O'Neill is level with French's back foot when he kicks. Like most humans, French kicked with the foot that was in front.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"It doesn’t make us a bad team and hasn’t lost us anything.
We we’re out muscled by the Wigan pack and it showed.
We had a poor kick game off the back of that…to be honest Drinkwater was anonymous and when he did play some, he stank the place out.
Williams had his poorest kicking game too. Williams is a short game kicker, but because our forwards were 2nd best, he wasn’t kicking short.
Harry Smith was sensational.
That’s it really. We go again next week.'"
Spot on mate, somebody talking sense. The best team won and the score line doesn’t reflect Wigan’s dominance. Drinkwater is a lightweight, Williams needs a dominant pack. Wires back line is too lightweight in such conditions.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Wigan had the better forwards. Kasiano may as well have impact sub tattooed on his forehead. Why are we starting him? Should have been Minkin at centre, Mata’utia at 13, McGuire at prop.
Kasiano on the bench with Clark, Whitehead/Thomas and Green.'"
Are you saying Powell is clueless?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Absolutely. Beat me to it.
We were munched for position by a better pack, and a quality kicking game from Harry Smith.
Looking ahead, despite only a 7 points loss against Wigan with only 1 prop out, and nobody else to come in, they are pretty much where they are, Wigan won’t get much better than that…
Whereas Wire have got another 3/4 gears to come back yet.
Harrison Bullock Dudson Philbin.
Who out of the 2 coaches with feel most comfortable about the coming weeks?'"
You are now talking rubbish. We have some outstanding backs to come back into the squad who will improve us. I wouldn’t worry too much about your pack it is your backs that are lightweight, if Williams gets injured you are in trouble.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Absolutely. Beat me to it.
We were munched for position by a better pack, and a quality kicking game from Harry Smith.
Looking ahead, despite only a 7 points loss against Wigan with only 1 prop out, and nobody else to come in, they are pretty much where they are, Wigan won’t get much better than that…
Whereas Wire have got another 3/4 gears to come back yet.
Harrison Bullock Dudson Philbin.
Who out of the 2 coaches with feel most comfortable about the coming weeks?'"
You are now talking rubbish. We have some outstanding backs to come back into the squad who will improve us. I wouldn’t worry too much about your pack it is your backs that are lightweight, if Williams gets injured you are in trouble.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Simple question. Do you think O'Neil, not even taking into account the offside, had more control over the ball for his try than Minikin had for his no-try?'"
Both were tries in my view. Wigan were also the better side by a country mile.
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| Quote ="CW8"If the calls were in our favour and not yours you'd probably be taking it worse than we are, because you definitely deserved to win. You watch them again, ask yourself honestly if you'd be happy if that was us scoring against you or you having a try disallowed at tbe death. It was a night of fine margins, although when looking at all the stats, you lot should have blown us out of the water.'"
On a dry patch we would have blown you away tonight.
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