It's criminal that king is picked ahead of him. There is NO justification for it at all. And if Powell continues to do it then he can do one for me.

Didn’t Wrench handle Leutele comfortably last week along with scoring a cracking try? Ian ruddy Thornley embarrassed Toby King, repeatedly, last night.

It`s time for Powell to show some b@lls, and to start dropping our under performing "stars"

Up to now, the only ones dropped are our kids, who are easy targets.

King has one good game and 3 stinkers. Can’t pass, won’t pass, but I’ll pass.
Can move on for me.

We have signed him for years.

And on a LOT of money

You just can’t write it, done nothing wrong to be dropped except one of the over paid players is now fit would laugh but it’s not even funny.

and here lies the problem with our club.... No club gives such good contracts to such bang average players.

You cant move on a championship player, who is being payed like a GF winner.

But a year ago if we had had a referendum on this site about whether King should be offered a big contract to say you would have had a resounding YES vote. Same as when we were in contract talks with Currie.

I’ve it from a good source last season end that allegedly King didn’t get a fat salary increase.
He was offered a small increase and Wire called a bluff to the agent.
Apparently there wasn’t anyone in for him and eventually accepted Wire’s offer.

I want thewlis wrench dean etc to get more game time, but I also want better quality players around them. Which is why the next windo if signings is important in balancing where the money is spent.

Thought King did that whole 'A level maths' thing about his new contract & appearances etc - would be funny if he'd fudged up his own salary numbers !

A rubber duckie “good source”. Take it to the bank! #GeorgeWilliamsInjured

Yep even Hill was out of favour. Too many "hindsight henry's" about. Very useful to go back and check on comments made a year ago.

Yes. A few were relaxed about King going lost in the furore of posts who habitually over rate our players as "world class".

I’m not too sure that's correct and I'm not going to trawl back but I think criticism of Hill were on the wane.

In his last year he was giving away less penalties and was less moany and a more effective prop

Agreed, once Hill had the captaincy responsibility removed, he could concentrate on his own game and was in great form.

My guess is that quite a few wanted Hill for one year was OK but two was a risk. Having seen players who suddenly drop off or get injured as they age I was going that way. I suppose it all depends on money ... which we never get to hear about. I have been wrong before ... many times.

The general consensus was hill was better overall without the captaincy, however there was still the odd wet lettuce complaining if he gave a penalty away. Though for 3 years prior plenty questioning why he was still here.

Likewise with King plenty of ppl crying about the possibility of letting 'home grown successes' leave, I cant recall anyone referring to him as world class but was deffo one of the best attacking (when used right) centres in the league, he was also one of the best defensive centres in the league as well, generally his reads are pretty good.


But, you're only as good as your last game currently.

You let one of the best props in super go in the form of Hill. He is head and shoulders above what you have now( Cooper aside). Powell made a massive mistake in letting him go, bringing with him Holmes, Minikin and the other guy. Good props are hard to find as Powell has found out, wish Hill would have signed for Leigh, I'm sure we would have given him a 3 year contract.

Come on Cat let's name those "wet lettuces" and the "hindsight henry's" and what about the "mighty moaners" whilst you are at it.

Actually let me rephrase something I said, you're only as good as your last mistake.

That more accurately reflects the opinions of some in the fanbase.

Yes lettuce name them.

I thought the general concensus was that Hill wanted a longer contract than we were prepared to give. So not a case of "letting him go". Everything that starts, has to end some time.

Quote Likewise with King plenty of ppl crying about the possibility of letting 'home grown successes' leave, I cant recall anyone referring to him as world class but was deffo one of the best attacking (when used right) centres in the league, he was also one of the best defensive centres in the league as well, generally his reads are pretty good. But, you're only as good as your last game currently.'" Selection of views. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=633510&start=100

Quote Likewise with King plenty of ppl crying about the possibility of letting 'home grown successes' leave, I cant recall anyone referring to him as world class but was deffo one of the best attacking (when used right) centres in the league, he was also one of the best defensive centres in the league as well, generally his reads are pretty good. But, you're only as good as your last game currently.'" Selection of views. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=633510&start=100