You obviously fail to grasp the concept of my post, but with you being a St Helens fan that is understandable I suppose.

It is called "evening up the penalty count". It has been done plenty of times in games.



So you expect Bentham to say no try? He made a live decision based on what he saw; if anybody should have said something it was the touch judge Mike Woodhead, he was the closest official to the incident. If Bentham saw that Evan's foot was in touch, he must have the greatest vision in the world.

However going off his performance last night, he most definitely does not......

Just adding my two penneth!!

I honestly didn't see too much wrong with the game last night, a couple of blades of grass stopped Evans scoring in the last few minutes and had Hilly managed to stretch out a bit further within the first ten mins then his try would have been awarded. I cant remember who, but there was a kick in goal in the first half that bounced around, landed in one of our players hands but was the spilled.......had he held onto it it was another try. We made good ground and had most of the possession and territory against a fresh, in form, saints side. Not bad given our last game was 5 days earlier and theirs was 13 days earlier.

Yes we spilled balls, and the running was off but we could still have won. I'm also not having this Saints are crap thats being spouted around, they are a form team at the mo who scraped a win against a Warrington side who has barely had chance to breathe since their last game.......

Says more about Saints than us I reckon.

Our problems this season, summed up in one soundbite.

We just seem (at times) like that unfunny Catherine Tate character......am I bothered?
When we look interested, we're comfortably the best team in the league. Such a pity seem to have the attention span of a schoolkid in his 3Rd detention of the week.

At last somebody is talking sense. I just can't believe some of the earlier posts calling for T'S to be sacked etc. I can only assume these individuals are perfect and expect the same standards from all lesser beings.

I'd have no issue with a new coach.

And who's available should the situation arise? I don't feel there is currently anyone better than we already have nor would there be anyone better.

Unless you would want to promote from within.

Id have John Kear and Paul Cullen assistant.
Jk for his honesty, passion and balance. PC for his attention to detail and technicalities and love.

Surely agar will replace smith when the time comes. He's been groomed for it and is clearly a huge influence on your current performances

Perhaps you'd like to try again then.

You claim that the Wigan side (that Saints beat 21 - 4) would have put 50 on them......

Even Shaun Wane only claimed a 30 point difference if Ben Flower had lasted the Grand Final

I'm surprised you haven't put some reality into your concept, 80-0 would be a more factual score.

Seems to me that Sandow picks his games. Awful kicking last night bar one or two that he chased. He'll be a different player come the 27th August when he wants the Lance Todd and the big cup, mark my words. If he's up for it, it's a totally different side.

Gidley by the same token often reminds me of an old dog whose heart says GO but the legs don't follow. Now and then he provides the magic and we look a different side.

Agree with those saying Sims is all sizzle and no steak, ditch the glamour look and he's a decidedly average prop.

What's the issue with Penny? He's missed in the team, Rhys much better in the centres.

Also agree overall with those saying we weren't far off last night bar mistakes and penalties. Pretty good going against the form team of the comp with only five days' turnaround.

Agree with those saying Sims is all sizzle and no steak, ditch the glamour look and he's a decidedly average prop. Glamour look?

how many times does he lose the ball..gods sake carry it properly..and i agree with the poster who said get penny back and evans back to centre..baffling..

Ok, rockstar look, whatever. He's a nice enough guy but doesn't make enough of an impact.

Mike Cooper will hopefully make a difference next year, but I hope we are also ensuring we have another prop capable of good yardage. If I am honest though, I very much doubt that will happen.

I have no problems with Ashton...After all he is the top offloader in Superleague. 23 more than Ben Currie. 2 more errors than Hill

Washbrook pushes Jewitt, no penalty, different ref, different decision.

After games this week...I'll call it...
Pies finish top.
Grand Final between one of these: Pies, Saints and slim outsiders at our expense Cas.
Us and Hull...We've been fairly ok throughout the season with injuries, hence the league positions at round 23.
Both Hull and Wire are as good as we get, unless both teams sort out the quarter lines.
Ours being much worse than Hull presently.

I love listening to Luke Dorn. He knows his stuff.
I love watch Rangi play for Cas.
I hope he stays grounded and things don't go to his head again.

God bless you WWRLFC78 I didn't get to see the game as there was no Sky available on my jols..I was about to commit harikari or do a Rigsby no not talk complete gibberish like our current Saints visitor, the real Rigsby just leave my clothes on Towyn beach and do one probably start over as Wigan fan yeah they won last night they'll be my choice from now on.

Have faith folks it's not as bad as some think and the over reaction on here is a tad embarrassing...AGAR OUT there you go we've not had that one in a while

Get Penny back in the fold Evans back to centre and Russell isn't a FB, or should I say a good yes he works hard and brings the ball back well but everyone will kick him to bits the guy just can't catch the first prerequisite in any rugby player surely?

I posted that before any of those penalties had happened, I still feel the same he officiated the rook differently for both sides (in terms of when the held call is made) in my opinion and I've seen far too much of that for my liking. Still you won, so you are correct and the officiating was outstanding.

Yes it has including the Saints team which whilst playing much better now is far from top notch. I still think it will be you vs the goons in the GF.

After the match he said he didn't know he was the dummy runner and was cursing Turner for not passing it to him.

Just watching the saints game, I've been away with work thus week, And just had the opportunity to see the Hughes 'incident' if you can call it that, I was waiting for Bentham to call held, he started but petered out part way through, now If that was a wigan tackle, that gets another five seconds and then someone comes in on the legs AND they then about on the floor.

Tackle wasn't held, was nothing wrong with it. Can't believe they got a penalty. Penalty should have been against scarsbrook