That wasn't really your point. Just because they're not from overseas, doesn't mean that you 'brought them through the ranks'.

Not with England, no. I think they're a lost cause.

He doesn't seem to understand 'words'.

Sorry forgot smith is a better coach than madge

have you changed that grubby grey jumper yet?

You colour blind?

your apology is duly noted.

Tony Smith is a very good coach but no way could he have done what Madge did with Wigan during that first season.

On 'homegrown players' We have 12 in our 19 man squad Wire have 6 in theirs. Although over recent years Wire have improved massively in the development of their younger players IMO.

Can't wait for the game tonight, should be very tight, can't call it!

We had one the previous week. Madge made you a more consistent team, you had made the previous three grand final eliminators, he just took you the next step. Tony Smith took over a very underachieving Leeds team and turned them into double grand final winners with a team containing many players who came through the Leeds youth set-up. Tony Smith took over a team of underachievers at Wire. As far as I can remember Tony Smith has signed Mathers, Solomona, Atkins, Myler, Hodgson and Joel Monaghan. In the same time frame Wigan have brought in Gleeson, Deacon, Lima, Hoffman, Finch. Not much difference their to be honest.

Mathers
Smith
Walker
Calderwood
Maguire
Burrow
Sinfield
Hall
Diskin
JJB
Kirke
Ablett


Should I go on? It's clear that Tony Smith hasn't got a clue.

That's the point though, Tony Smith took a team from ninth or wherever it was to 3rd and to repeat as challenge cup winners. Madge took you from grand final eliminator to grand final winners. Not that big a step. Both are great coaches and both set's of fans are happy with what they have at the minute. Let's leave it there.

so its a grubby white top?

that is grubby then.

So you could argue a strong case that Warrington have seen a greater improvement under Smith than Wigan have under 'madge'.

Take a look at where we finished in the league previous years we got a good run in the playoffs knock out rugby just like you lot with the cc

Under madge we have done that week in week out to say smith is better than madge is stupid

Looking for a bite so you can slam the ban hammer

Do yourself a favour and grow up cat

Phil Clarke certainly thought so last year, and he should know.

Phil clarke is a massive wopper

I bow to your superior intellectuality and your wonderful debating skills.

How can you argue with someone that puts their point across in such a structured and well informed manor.

i am grown up, i don't act like a keyboard stormtrooper bragging how i was this close smacking rugby players when they're out the to make myself sound big hard and clever, when in reality its making you look rather foolish and immature.

Can you say that?

oh, and banhammer?

are you 12 and playing Halo?

wtf

Unbelievably, there is a place in Wigan, called Thicknesse Avenue...
I think we've found a resident

My dad's bigger than your dad. Its an argument with no clear result because your own dad is always the best.

Try telling that to Marvin Gaye

We had none in ours when we played Wakefield - you toss pot

Here we go

I was asked about that and said what happened if you would like i could post what your players was up to?

I do find it funny that you try to look for a bite so you can slam the ban hammer down which is pretty childish

haha