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| They scored 2 when they were down to 12 didn't they?
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Absolute banter club.
Biggest joke in the game.
Up the tigers!!'"
Do yourself a favour, read the sticky about provocative posting.
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| I know this won't go down well but I thought we missed Jason Clark in defence yesterday.
One of the reasons our right edge was torn to shred was that the middle players were not working hard enough to allow the edge defenders to push out. We were sometimes left with a situation where it was 6 against 4. That is also created because we lost the contact battle, their forwards were then able to play the ball quicker and our middles just couldn't get back into position and we were then constantly fightng fires.
When you watch the 1st try we had four players to the right of the posts and GOB had 6 players outside him when he dummied and went over all created by the middles losing the battle and not working hard enough
I don't quite get the talk of Trueman and Holmes coming here.
I know both our second rowers had shockers yesterday but I think the side that we need to concentrate on is our right edge. OK Holmes may be able to play on the right but Trueman is a left sided player. We know that Austin has been told to find another club but the 2 half backs we have been linked with have predominantly played on the left. Of course if Widdop is also going then I get it.
Please - no more square pegs in round holes
It was a shocking way to play in a semi final. It reminded me of the DVDV era where players would start to run around like maniacs when the game was gone to show the crowd that they were putting the effort in to avoid criticism. There was a lot of playing to the crowd in that performance.
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| So Cas absolutely tore us apart and really could have scored more tries. Huddersfield, first half, did the same. Catalan scored a total of 14 points against us in two games ... but have lost to no one else. What I would really like to know is what are Cas/Hudd doing that we cannot handle and that Catalan are not capable of? Cas for years (when Gale was with them) were brilliant on the left edge but this attacking performance was something else. Their performances in the last few weeks, mean beggar all, cos they have had so many injuries.
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| Right edge defence is woeful, unfortunately for us yesterday that also coincided with left edge brain farts in attack. Ratch and Currie didn't seem to click all match, plus the pass to touch 10m from our own line screamed of a set move that didn't go to plan (i still question Lineham's position on that, he's far too big to make up any distance between him and King when needed)
I've not watched the game back and I likely wont because I'm sulking but how can a 32 year old, ex stand off who's a bit chunkier than he was can score a hat-trick with only last gasp tackles to try and stop him.
Charnley likes the rush out but is he being forced by lack of comms from Hughes/Austin from the inside or is he just a very bad reader of attacking moves?
Both our wingers aren't used as traditional wingers anymore and it shows. Low tries, low mobility and low defence.
Powell's instructions were clear from the start, attack Charnley and it paid off.
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| We made Jordan Turner look like Josh Addo-Carr.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"So Cas absolutely tore us apart and really could have scored more tries. Huddersfield, first half, did the same. =#FF0000Catalan scored a total of 14 points against us in two games ... but have lost to no one else. What I would really like to know is what are Cas/Hudd doing that we cannot handle and that Catalan are not capable of? Cas for years (when Gale was with them) were brilliant on the left edge but this attacking performance was something else. Their performances in the last few weeks, mean beggar all, cos they have had so many injuries.'"
This has been baffling me also, something isn't stacking up.
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| It’s that inconsistency that does us - perform great against one team and pants against another. The squandered potential is what is hard to take.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"This has been baffling me also, something isn't stacking up.'"
Easy. Unable to handle the pressure of being favourites in games against sides with similarly equal ability.
For the 2 Catalan games, it's fair to say that defeat in either wouldn't have been seen as a surprise. No pressure = Decent performances (Similarly, it can be argued that Catalan have the same issue?).
Yesterday, the Hudds game, last year's semi, last 2 year's play off games - clear favourites, most fans & pundits making us strong favourites on paper - the side bottle it, not just getting beat, but putting in really sub standard performances.
I think, overall, that's the thing that grates. In these games, it's not like we are being beat by a fantastic opposition. We are simply bottling it and giving terrible displays, almost as if they freeze on the day.
The only positive yesterday, was seeing a team coached by our next coach, actually turn up in a big game and play some great flowing RL. I suspect if the coaches had been reversed yesterday, then so would the result.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"
Yesterday, the Hudds game, last year's semi, last 2 year's play off games - clear favourites, most fans & pundits making us strong favourites on paper - the side bottle it, not just getting beat, but putting in really sub standard performances.
I think, overall, that's the thing that grates. In these games, it's not like we are being beat by a fantastic opposition. We are simply bottling it and giving terrible displays, almost as if they freeze on the day.'"
100% this. Saints CC Final, not expected to win, pressure off, won.
It's a constant theme with us. The last 2 play off defeats have been a damp squib from our side, never really getting going.
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| Cas pasted us in the opening game & then again in the first half at the HJ. Our 60 points made our performance seem better than it actually was for most of the match.
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| Price and all of his coaching staff aren't up to the job. His coaching ability is nonexistent, look at how bad Clark was yesterday and he still didn't take him off, Charnley has been useless all season but always starts, Matt Davis shouldn't be anywhere near the 1st team and to top it all off Jack Hughes is the bloody captain. All this is down to Price but the clown won't resign so it's time for Moran and Middleton to show some bottle for once and sack him.
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| Put enough money into the club and I'm sure Moran and Middleton would be happy to welcome you onto the board to make that sort of difficult decision.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Put enough money into the club and I'm sure Moran and Middleton would be happy to welcome you onto the board to make that sort of difficult decision.'"
Why it’s a difficult decision?
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Put enough money into the club and I'm sure Moran and Middleton would be happy to welcome you onto the board to make that sort of difficult decision.'"
Hardly a difficult decision
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Put enough money into the club and I'm sure Moran and Middleton would be happy to welcome you onto the board to make that sort of difficult decision.'"
Difficult decision? Price is leaving at the end of the year, anyone with eyes in their head can see we'll bottle the GF even if by some miracle we make it and the dressing room seems to be splintering.
Neither Moran or Middleton got where they are by ducking difficult decisions but this isn't difficult. Unpleasant, sad (I think we all agree Price is a decent bloke) and disruptive but it certainly shouldn't be construed as a tough call.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Difficult decision? Price is leaving at the end of the year, anyone with eyes in their head can see we'll bottle the GF even if by some miracle we make it and the dressing room seems to be splintering.
Neither Moran or Middleton got where they are by ducking difficult decisions but this isn't difficult. Unpleasant, sad (I think we all agree Price is a decent bloke) and disruptive but it certainly shouldn't be construed as a tough call.'"
This. I’ve had more difficult decisions deciding what to have from the chippy on a Friday night.
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| Sacking someone is not a difficult decision? I'm glad you're not my employer.
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| Wasn't it time for Powell to go less than a week ago
"https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/time-for-powell-to-clean-his-locker-as-castleford-fans-in-uproar-following-derby-thrashing-39853/
Oh how we love a good sacking.
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| In terms of a business decision, sacking Price now makes little sense - you'd have to pay off his remaining contract, plus find & hire someone, very much on the premise of:
"Would you drop what you're doing for 6 months, and win us a GF, but we've already got the next guy lined up..."
Do Adecco or Blue Arrow have any top flight RL coaches.....!?!?
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"This. I’ve had more difficult decisions deciding what to have from the chippy on a Friday night.'"
John Duffy and a large fish ... ought to solve your problem.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"
Neither Moran or Middleton got where they are by ducking difficult decisions but this isn't difficult. Unpleasant, sad (I think we all agree Price is a decent bloke) and disruptive but it certainly shouldn't be construed as a tough call.'"
Strange that Fitzpatrick isn`t mentioned regarding the decision making process.
Surely the CEO should have the remit to hire and fire and it would be his duty to do so.
I agree that Price needs to go immediately.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Sacking someone is not a difficult decision? I'm glad you're not my employer.'"
Nope. Relieving someone of their duties 6 months earlier than planned to save the season because they are underperforming is not a difficult decision.
For someone who goes for a beer every weekend with the coach it may well be, but for a ruthless CEO it would be pretty straightforward.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Sacking someone is not a difficult decision? I'm glad you're not my employer.'"
I think we’re not discussing a sacking though, just an early release with the remaining contract paid off. If anything it’s in the coach’s favour as he gets to leave earlier without losing out financially. It’s just the disappointment of being replaced that would be hard to take, and as others have said he’s a nice guy so no one wants him to leave on the wrong terms.
The tough call isn’t the emotional angle it’s whether we would be worse off with a temporary coach for six months, one who knows he hasn’t got the job for 2022. If we do go down that route maybe we give Henderson a chance to put himself in the shop window. Would be freaky if he won us the grand final though!
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| Quote ="easyWire"I think we’re not discussing a sacking though, just an early release with the remaining contract paid off. If anything it’s in the coach’s favour as he gets to leave earlier without losing out financially. It’s just the disappointment of being replaced that would be hard to take, and as others have said he’s a nice guy so no one wants him to leave on the wrong terms.
The tough call isn’t the emotional angle it’s whether we would be worse off with a temporary coach for six months, one who knows he hasn’t got the job for 2022. If we do go down that route maybe we give Henderson a chance to put himself in the shop window. Would be freaky if he won us the grand final though!'"
I'm discussing a sacking. I want him sacked first thing tomorrow.
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