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| King to Wigan on loan. Wow.
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| Will this mean Wardle going back to Huddersfield ? Sounds like the need to sign for Huddersfield was less important than to just get away from the HJ, no matter where .
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| Hopefully this does mean Wardle stays on board with us (fingers crossed).
If not i've no idea what we're gonna do unless (like someone previously said) Currie to left centre, Holmes back on the left where he belongs. And Nicholson to right second row?
But i would just prefer us to keep Wardle, Even if it's just for 2023
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| Who have Huddersfield got for next year? Cudjoe and Naiqama?
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Who have Huddersfield got for next year? Cudjoe and Naiqama?'"
Leutele hasn't signed for anyone else yet has he?
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| I think he's confirmed he's leaving Huddersfield
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| Does this also mean we possibly signing Wardle and him not going to Wigan next season.
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| Watson has obviously decided that he doesn`t want/rate King, since King already had a season long loan at Huddersfield.
It will be interesting to see how King goes at Wigan, until the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Watson has obviously decided that he doesn`t want/rate King, since King already had a season long loan at Huddersfield.
It will be interesting to see how King goes at Wigan, until the end of the season.'"
Maybe he does want him but the contract for next season is the issue? Or maybe Wigan want him more? Either way I have a feeling Toby King will show his worth in the wigan colours.
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| Let’s hope so as his worth is not much. Wardle is a much better centre, if King going to Wigan means we get Wardle I think we can all agree we’ve got the better deal.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Let’s hope so as his worth is not much. Wardle is a much better centre, if King going to Wigan means we get Wardle I think we can all agree we’ve got the better deal.'"
King could play well in the current Wigan team, where Field and French are terrorising defences with their footwork and pace.
When they played us at the HJ, the gaps they created, made Iain Thornley look brilliant and he completely dominated Toby King.
I too want Wardle to sign a permanent deal for Wire, which would include a transfer fee to Huddersfield.
It could be that Wigan won`t pay a transfer fee and hence they have moved to sign King instead?
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Who have Huddersfield got for next year? Cudjoe and Naiqama?'"
Bibby, and another NRL centre joining in Masters.
Unless something has changed in the last 10 days Wardle was 100% a Wigan player for next season.
Stranger things have happened that he may now have turned his back on that deal but Wire would have to pay for it, ie to Wigan.
It does happen. I know of 1 club who have signed a player from his current club and are now offering him back to them as they can secure a better player for a fee of £60k.
I’m 100% confident though that 10 days ago Wardle had agreed terms and signed a pre contract agreement with Wigan. Wardle cannot go back to Hudds due to his relationship with Watson.
Leutele was nailed on for Leigh, with McDonald going to Leeds, not sure if he had signed for Leigh though, maybe you have gone in for him?
Interesting how this all plays out over the next weeks/months.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Let’s hope so as his worth is not much. Wardle is a much better centre, if King going to Wigan means we get Wardle I think we can all agree we’ve got the better deal.'"
King is a lot better a player than most of our fans give credit for. Wigan wouldn't have taken him if he wasn't.
I prefer Wardle though and would be delighted if we signed him. I think we need 2 centres though, I'm not really keen on Mata'utia to be honest I don't see what he brings to the plate other than being fairly solid, we would have been better off keeping mamo IMO. We need more control in our halves as well, a player with a tactical game because we don't seem to dictate where games will be played. Dean is the best choice of what we have in the first team squad currently, Leon Hayes could be worth a go but Williams and ratchford is 100% not the answer.
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| Quote ="jonh"Bibby, and another NRL centre joining in Masters.
Unless something has changed in the last 10 days Wardle was 100% a Wigan player for next season.
Stranger things have happened that he may now have turned his back on that deal but Wire would have to pay for it, ie to Wigan.
It does happen. I know of 1 club who have signed a player from his current club and are now offering him back to them as they can secure a better player for a fee of £60k.
I’m 100% confident though that 10 days ago Wardle had agreed terms and signed a pre contract agreement with Wigan. Wardle cannot go back to Hudds due to his relationship with Watson.
Leutele was nailed on for Leigh, with McDonald going to Leeds, not sure if he had signed for Leigh though, maybe you have gone in for him?
Interesting how this all plays out over the next weeks/months.'"
Wardle is not a free agent, so Huddersfield would have to release him from his current contract which doesn`t expire until the end of 2023.
Your post doesn`t mention Huddersfield, so unless they have agreed to give him a free transfer, or sell him to Wigan, his signature on a pre contract agreement to Wigan would be worthless.
If Warrington sign Wardle from Huddersfield for a transfer fee, I can`t see how Wigan could be entitled to a transfer fee too?
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Wardle is not a free agent, so Huddersfield would have to release him from his current contract which doesn`t expire until the end of 2023.
Your post doesn`t mention Huddersfield, so unless they have agreed to give him a free transfer, or sell him to Wigan, his signature on a pre contract agreement to Wigan would be worthless.
If Warrington sign Wardle from Huddersfield for a transfer fee, I can`t see how Wigan could be entitled to a transfer fee too?'"
Wigan had agreed a deal with the player and paperwork had been signed, presumably pre contract but who knows.
For this to happen Huddersfield must have given permission so were happy for the player and club to talk. Not sure if that involves a fee or an agreement a player may be heading their way or Giants just wanted him off the cap.
Watson and Wardle have had a total break down in relationship over where position and side of the field Wardle was to play going forward. Him signing for Wigan started the chain of events leading to the King swap.
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| So at the moment we have one established centre (Mata’utia) for the start of 2023 given Wrench’s injury, Minikin’s status as a back up squad player and uncertainty around Wardle’s availability. Outside backs and an organising half back please!
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| Quote ="Kevin Turvey"So at the moment we have one established centre (Mata’utia) for the start of 2023 given Wrench’s injury, Minikin’s status as a back up squad player and uncertainty around Wardle’s availability. Outside backs and an organising half back please!'"
You can’t ignore the fact you have gone big on forwards for next year.
I’m assuming you will be looking to try move on some contracted Props but the cap is going to be tight particularly as it stands.
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| Quote ="Kevin Turvey"So at the moment we have one established centre (Mata’utia) for the start of 2023 given Wrench’s injury, Minikin’s status as a back up squad player and uncertainty around Wardle’s availability. Outside backs and an organising half back please!'"
It looks to me that Wardle, will be playing for Wire next season.
I have heard that we are trying to secure another halfback for 2023 season, but I still want to give Riley Dean a gig there and if we do sign another halfback, why on earth have we retained Stephan Ratchford for another 2 years?
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| Quote ="jonh"You can’t ignore the fact you have gone big on forwards for next year.
I’m assuming you will be looking to try move on some contracted Props but the cap is going to be tight particularly as it stands.'"
We had an unbalanced side with not enough grunt to start 2022, and now we have an unbalanced squad with too much grunt at the expense of our centres/wingers. Yes, there's a surplus of forwards, some of which will be moved on as there won't be any first team rugby for them.
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| With our forwards for next season ,i think some of them will soon be on first name terms with the disciplinary committee & i would not be surprised if most of the time our squads will be made up of our young forwards. I wait to be convinced that next year will be anything but a shambles.
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| I mentioned on another thread a few weeks ago that the comments that Matty Peat came out with when we signed Nicholson were only a day or so after we had agreed the loan / swap with Wardle and King.
At the time it appeared like quite a strong rant about an 18 year old that had played one game. So maybe there was a bit more behind it and we had inadvertently screwed up wigans plans for Wardle
I never had a problem with King when he was here so wish him the best of luck at Wigan.
Some strange parallels here. Didnt Hardaker end up on the outer at Wigan because he didnt want to get the coach back to Wigan after a game in Yorkshire.
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| Yes, the stance from Powell and Peet is that the team travels in the team coach, plays the away games and then return as a team on the coach, back to their home ground.
If players choose to live in Yorkshire and travel every day for training, that is their choice but on matchdays they have to adhere to the club`s rules, regarding travelling as a team.
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| We’ll be paying lots of King’s wages as well as Cooper’s for now. We’ve probably thrown Wigan a few quid to overturn their signing of Wardle too.
It’s win win all round, we get improvements in both areas with Vaughan and Wardle and we keep money in the game by giving a skint club some money to sign another one of our Academy players.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"We’ll be paying lots of King’s wages as well as Cooper’s for now. We’ve probably thrown Wigan a few quid to overturn their signing of Wardle too.
It’s win win all round, we get improvements in both areas with Vaughan and Wardle and we keep money in the game by giving a skint club some money to sign another one of our Academy players.'"
If King turns his game around and Wigan get him playing well, then we can take him back off them for the remaining 2 years of his contract and thank them for the favour.
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| Sooner or later our benefactors are going to get tired of pumping money into the club like this.
Pay for players to go, pay for them to come, pay for them to come, go and stay away.....
Situation is quite ludicrous. (If it's all to be believed)
Another week, another revelation......
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