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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Serious question but I thought Powell waa changing the culture by having a clear out last year?
What has changed between the first 10 games and now? Is it culture or confidence?'"
There's a split in the camp with the way the McGuire "incidents" were handled. Seems there were splits in the camp last year too, and Powell hasn't been able to heal rifts. Instead, he's shipped out a lot of players rather than change culture and attitudes to bring groups of players together and become a team. Team selection has been baffling, and there are other problems. We had a easy looking fixture list to start off the season, which made us look good, as results against Wigan & Saints proved we weren't the real deal. Were back to square one, looking like a team heading towards the championship, as we did in 2022, rather than GF contenders..
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| In that case is the problem Powell, or is it Fitzpatrick? We saw what this squad full of confidence and pulling in the same direction can do.
The decline seemed to predate McGure’s #2 discretion though?
End of the day, Powell came to us saying the culture needed to change, one of two things has happened, he wasn’t the right man to do it, or he hasn’t been allowed to due to those above him…. Only Moran & Middleton can make that call.
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| The obvious coach replacement would be Paul Rowley who can garner team spirit and gets his team's playing exciting rugby... The fact that Salford are financially imploding seemingly at the moment would make him susceptible to a move I suspect
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| Can I just say that whoever comes in and whoever is to blame; Powell, players, board etc etc….the Powell era has been the least enjoyable period of watching the Warrington RLFC circus in 40+ years. That takes some doing.
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| you have to ask yourself, who would want to coach this club? feels like any coach with a 'proven' record is coming for a quick payday and a sharp exit now.
we have nothing to lose now..... the fans just want to club back now. Enough of this pantomime.
Monaghan, Briers... I would be more then happy with a new untried coach.. someone with some history and love for the club... someone the fans and the players will respect... that's what's needed now.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"someone the fans and the players will respect... that's what's needed now.'"
Therein lies the problem. These players think they elite athletes at the peak of their sport, and that the world, and the club owes them a living.
Wayne Bennett could walk through the door and they'd probably sulk because he growled at them in training.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Therein lies the problem. These players think they elite athletes at the peak of their sport, and that the world, and the club owes them a living.
Wayne Bennett could walk through the door and they'd probably sulk because he growled at them in training.'"
ok.. so MAYBE, Powell cutting all the players he did was 100% needed... a Briers or a Monaghan couldn't have come in and done that.
But now that they are gone (sure we still have some to get rid off).. A new coach can come in, recruit a few of his own and all of a sudden, we aren't in such a bad position.... The club needed a hatchet man.. His time is now up... Maybe he was never going to succeed after being so ruthless and upsetting so many.
But maybe the ground is alot smoother for the next coach.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"ok.. so MAYBE, Powell cutting all the players he did was 100% needed... a Briers or a Monaghan couldn't have come in and done that.
But now that they are gone (sure we still have some to get rid off).. A new coach can come in, recruit a few of his own and all of a sudden, we aren't in such a bad position.... The club needed a hatchet man.. His time is now up... Maybe he was never going to succeed after being so ruthless and upsetting so many.
But maybe the ground is alot smoother for the next coach.'"
I sure hope so.
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| Back to square one. Again.
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| SHAUN WANE is the only coach I'd have.
Mr Moran get that chequebook out and write? On it
This is the only guy that'll win us a GF.
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| His name always comes up. He's Wigan through and through. I don't think he'd manage another club (in UK).
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"His name always comes up. He's Wigan through and through. I don't think he'd manage another club (in UK).'"
Can’t really see anyone looking forward to the prospect of putting up with your deluded set of fkwits every week!
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| Who ever comes in must have total control and no interference from the back office.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"ok.. so MAYBE, Powell cutting all the players he did was 100% needed... a Briers or a Monaghan couldn't have come in and done that.
But now that they are gone (sure we still have some to get rid off).. A new coach can come in, recruit a few of his own and all of a sudden, we aren't in such a bad position.... The club needed a hatchet man.. His time is now up... Maybe he was never going to succeed after being so ruthless and upsetting so many.
But maybe the ground is alot smoother for the next coach.'"
I hope you are right but I think we are in a worse position now than at the start of 2022.
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| Wane was interviewed for the role at the same time as Powell.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"ok.. so MAYBE, Powell cutting all the players he did was 100% needed... a Briers or a Monaghan couldn't have come in and done that.
But now that they are gone (sure we still have some to get rid off).. A new coach can come in, recruit a few of his own and all of a sudden, we aren't in such a bad position.... The club needed a hatchet man.. His time is now up... Maybe he was never going to succeed after being so ruthless and upsetting so many.
But maybe the ground is alot smoother for the next coach.'"
A clear out was needed but the players we brought in were not as good as the players we moved out.
We appear to have worse dressing room problems than we did under Price and we are in a worse position than we were when Price left.
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| I have been told Briers is loving the Australian lifestyle and the chances of him coming back to Warrington are nil.
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| Quote ="Irish Wire"I have been told Briers is loving the Australian lifestyle and the chances of him coming back to Warrington are nil.'"
I do not blame him plus he was assistant under Price, so not sure he is the messiah.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"A clear out was needed but the players we brought in were not as good as the players we moved out.
We appear to have worse dressing room problems than we did under Price and we are in a worse position than we were when Price left.'"
That's it in a nutshell.
But now minus a great winger and hooker.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"A clear out was needed but the players we brought in were not as good as the players we moved out.'"
that's the worry isnt it.
in the industry i work in.. a hatchet man is a common occurrence... man/woman comes in, re-organises/sacks a load... upsets a few then they moves on, with a nice payoff.
i wonder how different this is really.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Can I just say that whoever comes in and whoever is to blame; Powell, players, board etc etc….the Powell era has been the least enjoyable period of watching the Warrington RLFC circus in 40+ years. That takes some doing.'"
Not for me.
That accolade is for Price.
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| Quote ="Longbarn Wire"As has been said. Wane for me...wont accept crap performances and would change the culture thats required. But absolutley no chance he would take us on...no way!!'"
I’m confident he would.
But he’s too pie for me v
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| honestly... i would like Briers.... free pass for him.
we all hate the team and the way we play....
if it goes wrong... its 'oh well he had no chance anyway'
if its a success its 'NOW THE WIRE'.
no brainer.... at least we would have someone to get behind... i feel like as a club, we really need some identity again... i want an ex player in charge.
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| So are the fans in agreement with the board?
We still firmly believe this playing group have the ability to compete at the highest level
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"honestly... i would like Briers.... free pass for him.
we all hate the team and the way we play....
if it goes wrong... its 'oh well he had no chance anyway'
if its a success its 'NOW THE WIRE'.
no brainer.... at least we would have someone to get behind... i feel like as a club, we really need some identity again... i want an ex player in charge.'"
Yes, we have lost identity. That's exactly it.
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