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| Quote ="ninearches"I don't think it can be all one way traffic from Brown....this is basically the same dressing room that conspired to oust Royce Simmons & if Saints had played to their potential in those early games when Simmons was in charge they would have coasted the league.'"
i'd point the finger at wilkin, he wellens and roby are pretty much the only hangover from the previous player regime at saints, from what i've heard he's a moaning get.
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| I think there's a deeper routed problem at Saints. If they're blaming Brown i think that's short sighted because they've been this way for about three or four years now.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i'd point the finger at wilkin, he wellens and roby are pretty much the only hangover from the previous player regime at saints, from what i've heard he's a moaning get.'"
spot on IMO....Wilkin is the root cause I'd wager.
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| I got the impression that Brown could be attempting to engineer an exit from Saints....Rather than jumping he'd prefer to be pushed out of the door for financial reasons perhaps ?....Before he was offered the Saints job he was planning a return to Oz.
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| Roby strikes me as someone who would just crack on with whatever he's told.
Wellens and Wilkin, especially Wilkin look/sound like troublemakers.
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| Quote ="BrianBradyHandOff"I got the impression that Brown could be attempting to engineer an exit from Saints....Rather than jumping he'd prefer to be pushed out of the door for financial reasons perhaps ?....Before he was offered the Saints job he was planning a return to Oz.'"
I can't see him ever being offered an NRL job, for the afore mentioned reason.
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| you know what, he's probably not even that good a coach, chances are he got the illawarra job as he was one of the boys there, he's confused the crap out of huddersfield, looks to be doing the same at saints.
If he was british, chances are people wouldn't even give him chance. Just because he's got an ocker accent..
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| Interesting how there are always stories about Brown being disruptive behind the scenes but he seems to get results. Similar to Brian Smith.
He got Huddersfield to a level of performance they had not been in decades, and he has Saints one point off top spot despite having 'problems in the camp'.
If we do decide to sack Tony Smith then I had said Noble, Powell and McNamara would be my preferred shortlist assuming neither of Wane or Brown were available, but if Saints sack Brown then he definitely goes in the list for me, probably 3rd after Powell.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"I can't see him ever being offered an NRL job, for the afore mentioned reason.'"
All he has ever wanted is an NRL job. He was the same when he was at Hudds. If one NRL club came in with an offer (if he's not sacked by then!) then you wouldn't see him for dust.
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| He also mentioned "staff" in his post match interview. I wonder if that was a sideswipe at Mcmanus. If it was his days are definitely numbered.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"spot on IMO....Wilkin is the root cause I'd wager.'"
same here..hes one annoying so and so
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"All he has ever wanted is an NRL job. He was the same when he was at Hudds. If one NRL club came in with an offer (if he's not sacked by then!) then you wouldn't see him for dust.'"
You're right, he's made no secret of it. But the Sydney media is unforgiving, for example just look at the Matt Parrish/Ray Hadley saga which is front page news at the moment over there. If he went over there would be endless replays of his antics on telly and I can't see many clubs there wanting to have their name to it with such emphasis on 'compliance' at the minute.
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| Shows how much peoples views are influenced by one result.
If Saints had beaten us yesterday would there be a big thread about Nathan Brown being sacked, with them top of the league? Or would the discussion be about "has TS taken Warrington as far as he can?"
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Shows how much peoples views are influenced by one result.
If Saints had beaten us yesterday would there be a big thread about Nathan Brown being sacked, with them top of the league? Or would the discussion be about "has TS taken Warrington as far as he can?"'"
No, he lost the support of many of our fans after Easter with the gutless performance against Wigan, the weak side he sent to Widnes and the cup defeat at Leeds another debacle.
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| Quote ="Div"No, he lost the support of many of our fans after Easter with the gutless performance against Wigan, the weak side he sent to Widnes and the cup defeat at Leeds another debacle.'"
This persons thougts are clearly sound, knowledgeable, accurate and well-reasoned based on the quality of his avatar, and the fact that yes Saints were abject 2nd half v against Wigan (though Wigan were very good).
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| Heaven knows hes miserable, again
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| Perhaps he started his half-time talk by saying-
'Stop me if you think you've heard this one before'
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| Hand in (Paul) Clough, the sun shines out of our behinds.
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| Walsh wants out too.
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| Homesick or Saints sick? I mean Moon was homesick and moved to Leeds, granted it is closer to Australia.
Imagine pulling his signing off, how sick would Saints be with that? And like above it is closer to Oz
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| Why would we want Saints cast offs? If someone is not good enough for Saints what makes you think they are good enough for us?
Besides, we need a prop....
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Why would we want Saints cast offs? If someone is not good enough for Saints what makes you think they are good enough for us?
Besides, we need a prop....'"
Lee Briers.
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| Nathan brown looks the sort who'd rather be surround by blonde haired bimbos,a crate of ale and BBQ. Nowt wrong with that, but he doesn't come across as a hard working RL coach. Who demands respect, dedication from his players.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"you know what, he's probably not even that good a coach, chances are he got the illawarra job as he was one of the boys there, he's confused the crap out of huddersfield, looks to be doing the same at saints.
If he was british, chances are people wouldn't even give him chance. Just because he's got an ocker accent..'"
Nathan Brown is a really good coach in terms of technical improvement of players, he is terrific at improving players individual skills, that really is his strength. Unfortunately he is neither a great tactician, as he tries to be too clever, nor is he a leader of men.
I think Saints will be the last Head coach job he gets.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Homesick or Saints sick? I mean Moon was homesick and moved to Leeds, granted it is closer to Australia.
Imagine pulling his signing off, how sick would Saints be with that? And like above it is closer to Oz
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You do know that there is an area in Leeds called Botany Bay, maybe Joel was right!
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