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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"you're right... smith hasn't turned us around at all.
From finishing outside the playoffs to 3rd and back to back challenge cup wins... He obviously doesn't know what he is doing.
He has turned us around MORE than 'madge' has done for you.'"
Noble could have done that job the players turned your team around not smith
And to say he's done a better job than madge is stupid
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| Quote ="king warrior"Noble could have done that job the players turned your team around not smith
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could you re-type that so that it makes sense please.
*edit..after reading it again i think you're possibly the most stupid person in this thread.
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| Quote ="king warrior"icon_lol.gif
Noble could have done that job the players turned your team around not smith
And to say he's done a better job than madge is stupid'"
Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself, now
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| Quote ="king warrior"Smith wouldn't have been able to turn us around like madge has fact
If he could he'd still be coaching england'"
Not really a fact is it.
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| Quote ="Poyser11"Not really a fact is it.'"
the players turned our team around.... not smith
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"the players turned our team around.... not smith
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Oh yeah, I guess that bad start to the season under Lowes, then going on to win the challenge cup under Smith was just my imagination
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| Quote ="king warrior"
The diffrence between the 2 teams is wire have paied out for players to come in and wigan have brought most through the ranks with a good coach showing them what to do smith wouldn't have been able to do that at wigan'"
Of course
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You are right - for a moment I thought you were mad
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| Quote ="Poyser11"Not really a fact is it.'" Ok smith coached england did sweet fa
He takes over a side signing near half a new squad what have done nothing with the players they had yet they win 2 cups that was not down to the coaching it was down to the squad getting alot stronger
Madge takes over a inconsistent team and makes them the most consistent in sl with 1 new signing
Madge is head and shoulders above any coach in sl
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| THIS is why brothers and sisters shouldn't sleep together.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Ok smith coached england did sweet fa
He takes over a side signing near half a new squad what have done nothing with the players they had yet they win 2 cups that was not down to the coaching it was down to the squad getting alot stronger
Madge takes over a inconsistent team and makes them the most consistent in sl with 1 new signing
Madge is head and shoulders above any coach in sl'"
Well then, dunno what the RFL are waiting for, England would clearly win the world cup under Madge.
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Of course
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You are right - for a moment I thought you were mad'" We had 5 overseas players in our squad last week
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| Quote ="Poyser11"Well then, dunno what the RFL are waiting for, England would clearly win the world cup under Madge.'" Do you not think he would make a big diffrence?
Look at millward with you men won everything but yet couldn't coach a bunch of kids now cause he aint got that squad he had
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"THIS is why brothers and sisters shouldn't sleep together.'" Funny coming from a wire
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| Quote ="king warrior"We had 5 overseas players in our squad last week'"
That wasn't really your point. Just because they're not from overseas, doesn't mean that you 'brought them through the ranks'.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Do you not think he would make a big diffrence?
Look at millward with you men won everything but yet couldn't coach a bunch of kids now cause he aint got that squad he had'"
Not with England, no. I think they're a lost cause.
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| Quote ="Poyser11"That wasn't really your point. Just because they're not from overseas, doesn't mean that you 'brought them through the ranks'.'"
He doesn't seem to understand 'words'.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"He doesn't seem to understand 'words'.'" Sorry forgot smith is a better coach than madge
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"have you changed that grubby grey jumper yet?'" You colour blind?
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| Quote ="king warrior"Sorry forgot smith is a better coach than madge
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your apology is duly noted.
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| Tony Smith is a very good coach but no way could he have done what Madge did with Wigan during that first season.
On 'homegrown players' We have 12 in our 19 man squad Wire have 6 in theirs. Although over recent years Wire have improved massively in the development of their younger players IMO.
Can't wait for the game tonight, should be very tight, can't call it!
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| Quote ="king warrior"We had 5 overseas players in our squad last week'"
We had one the previous week. Madge made you a more consistent team, you had made the previous three grand final eliminators, he just took you the next step. Tony Smith took over a very underachieving Leeds team and turned them into double grand final winners with a team containing many players who came through the Leeds youth set-up. Tony Smith took over a team of underachievers at Wire. As far as I can remember Tony Smith has signed Mathers, Solomona, Atkins, Myler, Hodgson and Joel Monaghan. In the same time frame Wigan have brought in Gleeson, Deacon, Lima, Hoffman, Finch. Not much difference their to be honest.
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| Quote ="Nogga"Tony Smith is a very good coach but no way could he have done what Madge did with Wigan during that first season.
On 'homegrown players' We have 12 in our 19 man squad Wire have 6 in theirs. Although over recent years Wire have improved massively in the development of their younger players IMO.
Can't wait for the game tonight, should be very tight, can't call it!'"
That's the point though, Tony Smith took a team from ninth or wherever it was to 3rd and to repeat as challenge cup winners. Madge took you from grand final eliminator to grand final winners. Not that big a step. Both are great coaches and both set's of fans are happy with what they have at the minute. Let's leave it there.
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| Quote ="king warrior"You colour blind?'"
so its a grubby white top?
that is grubby then.
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| Quote ="Galloping Ghost"That's the point though, Tony Smith took a team from ninth or wherever it was to 3rd and to repeat as challenge cup winners. Madge took you from grand final eliminator to grand final winners. Not that big a step. Both are great coaches and both set's of fans are happy with what they have at the minute. Let's leave it there.'"
So you could argue a strong case that Warrington have seen a greater improvement under Smith than Wigan have under 'madge'.
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