Not sure why he is so far out of favour. He's a good signing for you and it will do him good having a bit more game time.

There's no point sending players with the quality of Johnson or Livett to Rochdale, they are just too bad.

Glad to see them have a run out in the SL.

The Livett one makes no sense to me at all.

He is good enough to be in the squad most weeks and was deemed good enough to be on the bench on Saturday. He should be getting game time at Warrington.

At the moment I'd send BMM, J Clarke & Westwood on loan before Livett.

What position do you think is Livetts best?

I'm sure you don't really believe that! But I do recall Livett having a blinder on SKY last season. Did he flatter to deceive or is he the real deal?

Either way don't panic it's only for a month!

Believe he's off at the end of the season. Clearly Price not a fan.

Yes this.
We might get a few KR fans behind us at Wembley now for helping them in the fight against Leeds.

I doubt that as Price was the one who gave him a new contract. Unless he just thinks hes a good utility squad back up and that's it. I'm happy with Johnson and Livett going on loan. Gets them playing which must be frustrating when your not. lets us see what they can do on Thursday and gives them Super league first team action. Good for them and good for us

Me too...tells me they are in SP plans.
Like Sita and Davis this season.

Livett wont be here next season.

When do you play there?

There's no point signing players like Johnson at all if we never play them or give them a chance. He's played once against Wigan, never looked out of place was my MOM and no body has seen him since.

If the lad isn't as good or better than Tasi than he shouldn't even be at the club.

Well said,sir !

Thing is, look at who's playing, currie has come back into the team, is he playing any better or worse than livett was when he was filling in?

Probably about the same.

I'd have been playing Johnson in the left 2nd row after that wigan game. A direct edge runner.

Thats one of the things that you can say about saints pack, all their props and back rowers seem to be direct runners which is what caused us problems this year.

Its something we're missing now.

Im typing this while im walking so apologies for the rant

Well I totally agree with that.

The problem is you can only have 13 players on the pitch at a time. We are probably in the position of having too many decent players covering a few positions (2nd row being a specific area) and relatively few opportunities to play them all (thankfully as it means few injuries). Not having a reserve team means it is almost impossible to impress the coach sufficiently to dislodge the incumbent.

I'm amazed that Johnson has only made the one appearance, given how well he played.
Hope he shows us what he can do, albeit in another team's colours.

Here’s me with my five penneth again! Luis Johnson will play for England or Great Britain or whatever we call ourselves at the time in the next 5 years. A fantastic prospect and I’m amazed he’s not featured in this years Warrington team!

Most of us are amazed as well! Could not have made a more impressive debut and yet hasnt played for the first team since.

Louis Johnson certainly looked to be a dead cert for the first team when we bought him. Last year he started off with 3 games for Rochdale, but then came back and played out the year with the U19's. I guess the alarm bells should have been ringing at that point because if he was performing at a high standard then he should have made an early appearance in the first team, gone out to a struggling SL team, or at the very least remained in the Championship. FWIW whenever I saw him in the U19's he didn't look particularly special and only managed one try in his 20 games. This year he went to Widnes on loan for a month but only played 1 game. Since mid April he has been a regular for Rochdale - I have not seen him play though.

He certainly looks a fine athlete when he walks onto the pitch, and he did well to chase down Gildart in the game against Wigan, but if all aspects of his game were up to a high standard, then why has he not been given a chance of another game with the first team ? If a first year like Thewliss can be given a first team game at FB, then certainly Price could have easily made room for Johnson in the second row, a much easier position to hide a youngster.

So I suspect the answer is that Johnson has simply not done enough to warrant a game. And if we say he should be given a chance, we are betting our judgement against a professional RL coach who will have watched Johnson's performances and dissected his game. Not good odds surely ?

I'm with Winslade's never impressed at u19s level. What have others seen to make them think he deserves a chance for the first team bar one game off the bench at Wigan (he's never played as well as that for the u19s)?

That's a very good post mate, Never looked at it that way

I don't see what the stress is about.

Until this topic I haven't seen anybody say this season "we should drop Currie/Hughes and get that Luis Johnson in".

If he is going on loan to Hull KR presumably he will get first team action, if he starts tearing up SL then after his loan is up we can consider whether its time to try to phase out Currie/Hughes and put Johnson in.

I went the wire quiz and had Luis Johnson as our player on our team, he was a nice enough lad and said that he was told to wait for an injury and he would be in line to play but we havent had any second row injuries, read in to that as you will but surely you shouldnt just wait for an injury, you should be ripping up trees in training and forcing SP's hand to have to play you regardless

Well yes because competition is healthy...but it's also hard to change a winning team...even when Wire don't win...how can you leave out 2 England international backrowers?