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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"The problem is all of the commentators (SKY, local radio etc.) are biased, because they are all fans of a club, and,as you rightly admit, we're all biased as well, and nobody likes cheating Wigan!'"
Local radio pundits I have no problem with, that's the audience they are serving...Humberside radio is quite special for that....!!!
But Eddie Hemmings should be beyond that ...ALL the NRL commentators are impartial,
He's so petty with it though Like When Walmersley was done for the 8 point try .... he's like a velociraptor ...he remembers...!!!
the following Wire game Savelio tackles a scoring winger before he gets the ball down and its nothing remotely like the Walmersley incident but Hemmings pipes up
" Stuart whats the difference between that and what Alex Walmersley did".
he's obsessed with highlighting every fart our players do....
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| I have always thought Hemmings hated Warrington ... The "oh nooooo" when Grix scored against Hudds in the Play offs... The "poor Richie Mathers " when he saw red for almost removing Matt Kings head.. And the "really" when Catalan had a try chalked off by the VR..Are a few examples but,He's not even trying to hide it any more..
A few people have told me Hemmings and the other clowns were particularly bad the other night but I wouldn't know as I haven't seen the game back..
I have just moved house and I cancelled my subscription and to be honest I'm probably not going to renew it.
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| Just wondering how we square all this 'Eddie hates us' with his 'Briers for Britain' campaign?
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| Quote ="Sporting Billy"Just wondering how we square all this 'Eddie hates us' with his 'Briers for Britain' campaign?'"
That was before Tony Smith ripped into his mate Stevo for asking a ridiculous question whilst he was GB coach..
Hemmings and his cronies have disliked us ever since..
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| This thread smacks of paranoia. I can buy the fact that people think the commentary is poor (though surely you can't complain about the actual coverage-watch the choice of camera angles for a Catalans game and try and argue that point!); but to suggest anti-Wire bias is a little silly. The fans of most clubs in the league probably think Sky are anti-their club: most people cited Stevo as a closet Rhino, yet the South Stand had a spell of regularly chanting 'Stevo what's the score' when ahead in a televised game.
Generally I think the coverage is pretty fair. However the commentary can be poor (much prefer BBC for this), and I don't really get Barrie and Terry. Clarkey I don't mind, and Wells and Carney have freshened up the format. I'd prefer Woods with another (varied ex-player) summariser/opinion giver, and ditch Cummins (who is only needed as the current lot can be a bit vague on the rules, and obsess about refereeing decisions too much!)
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| With all this"everybody hates us "negativity thought I'd stumbled on the Wakefield forum
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| Quote ="Leythersteve"With all this"everybody hates us "negativity thought I'd stumbled on the Wakefield forum'"
You lot are OK ,the Sky lot seem to love Derek and his Leigh boys.. Good luck to you
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| It's quite funny knowing we get under his skin so much.
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| The bias isn't a problem for me, the problem I have is for a minority sport trying to attract new fans, we spend the majority of the analysis reviewing decisions than showing the skill. The commentary (not just Friday) is generally about errors, penalties and mistakes made by both players and officials, whereas the NRL commentators wax lyrical about the moments of skill. It's a completely different viewing experience.
I'm not calling for propaganda, just to spend less time scrutinising the mistakes and enjoy the game. I couldn't care if Ablett's hand was on the ball or not, it's a knock on, show the game! If we can't find something in 40 minutes for Wells to look at other than the Atkins knock on and the Westwood 'tackle' then we are in desperate times indeed.
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| After tonight I would like to see us decide not to speak to Sky. They are a ing bent shower.
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| Quote ="just_browny"After tonight I would like to see us decide not to speak to Sky. They are a loving bent shower.'"
I was at the game and in any event don't have Sky Sports, but, understand that we aren't their fav's what was tonight's particular annoyance Browny?
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| Phil Clarke said we wouldn't make the 4 playing like that (inability to score)
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| tonight's annoyance must be a easy one for us all too safely say annoyed every one of us.
that was Eddie's ocd on Kurt Gidley for a mistake.
actually like the fact when Gidley did make the 1 mistake he made at the Base of the scrum. it wasn't actually referenced.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Phil Clarke said we wouldn't make the 4 playing like that (inability to score)'"
Yet pre game he was bigging us up saying he's waiting for us to put 50 points on someone -and it could be tonight etc. Was a right tune-change by the end.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I was at the game and in any event don't have Sky Sports, but, understand that we aren't their fav's what was tonight's particular annoyance Browny?'"
Was at the game too (first of the season, up from the smoke), but watched it back. Cummings, as usual, didn't want a single decision to go our way. Eddie and Barrie laughed off the Houston 'hair tackle' on Sims, and all the team were tugging each other silly with the idea Philbin had done a double movement for ages until the real-speed replay showed how ridiculous the notion was.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Phil Clarke said we wouldn't make the 4 playing like that (inability to score)'"
In all fairness he's right...... we were awful in the second half. Luckily Widnes were slightly worse. (and they had Houston playing who almost wanted to win the match for us)
Widnes were there for the taking and we should have done a real number on them. Unfortunately the players thought the game was over at half time......... hopefully it was energy conservation for the game on Monday.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Was at the game too (first of the season, up from the smoke), but watched it back. Cummings, as usual, didn't want a single decision to go our way. Eddie and Barrie laughed off the Houston 'hair tackle' on Sims, and all the team were ing wach other silly with the idea Philbin had done a double movement for ages until the real-speed replay showed how ridiculous the notion was.'"
That was a special effort by Cummings to sound even more anti Wire than hemmings. I thought widnes' discipline was dreadful. It arguably cost them the game but the "experts " on several occasions talked about Warrington getting "benefit of the doubt"....
No problem with Phil Clarke he's right. ..our attack is poor but our defence looked good so we're taking baby steps at the moment. ... be interesting to see what Clarke says about Wigan though if they don't rack up a ton of points against their local rivals today ......
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| In a game based on scoring points an inability to score doesn't stand the team in good stead to win trophies. We can't complain though because Widnes were desperate for the win too & both teams showed they are far from brilliant at the moment.
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| Could it be that we simply consolidated our lead in the second half bearing in mind that there's another game to play this Easter?
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| Did anyone else think that when Gidley got caught out at the scrum that the Widnes prop broke before the ball was out? Should have been a Warrington penalty.
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| That was a strange decision because the ball was still in the scrum when the Widnes player broke free. I think Bentham missed a couple of Widnes off sides from kicks too.
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| Quote ="silver2"Did anyone else think that when Gidley got caught out at the scrum that the Widnes prop broke before the ball was out? Should have been a Warrington penalty.'"
You could hear the joy in Eddie's joy though as Gidley finally made a mistake..... anytime a wire player knocked he said it was Gidley.
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| Eddie - Wire hating and gets every clubs and players names wrong
Brian - not got a problem with him at all, decent to have on there
Phil - he's alright, sometimes talks , but fine
Terry - the worst, talks in thick riddles and says nothing of insight
John - shouts and talks too fast so gets himself mixed up
Barrie - not bad, but not good, again doesn't provide much insight
Every one of them though has a chip on their shoulder about Catalans and Wire. They hate both clubs. Listen to their commentary when either side is on and especially Eddie he sounds deflated when either team scores a try
You could keep Brian and Phil though and bin the rest off
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| We finished the Widnes game with nine first teamers missing and not a word, pretty sure we'd hear about it if it was Wigan. I think they didn't like us challenging the "big 4" they used to love us when we were the lovable losers.
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| The Sky team loved the days when it was a Grand final featuring any of Leeds,Wigan,Saints or Bradford. The fact that one of their darlings isn't in the mix any more and Saints and Leeds are not the teams they once were must pee them off..
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