he hasn't made that up. Even if it was a calculated guess, he's on the ball.
I for one do no longer buy a season ticket as its a waste if money. I cannot afford to take Fri and sat eves off work to watch wire. You can count on one hand how many Sunday afternoon home games wire have played this season.

I don't buy into all that, I think there is just no attempts to market the club which is quite sad at a time of such success. If the weekly rounds thing is such an issue, why do Leeds pull in such great crowds? Part of the answer to that is they make every game feel like a huge event.

If Friday nights are so detrimental, why is it the night of choice for Wigan, Saints and Leeds who have topped the attendance charts for years? Hull decided to move from Friday to Sunday, only to find it had a negative effect.

People turn up in their thousands to watch things like darts and cricket despite actually having little interest. Both games are like watching paint dry, but they have successfully made it a day out. Rugby league in Warrington remains to the vast amount of people something you go to because you already have. Huddersfield in the cup we should have been turning people away, yet we had an embarrassing crowd that day.

"friday nights are so detrimental, why is it the night of choice for Wigan, Saints and Leeds who have topped the attendance Friday"

I dont agree...

Saints attendances per game are less than Warrington, but for 2 league and any possible play off games that include Wigan and Warrington, and having a stadium big enough not to turn them away. unlike Warrington who's stadium has had too small a capacity.
These 2 games are enough to send saints attendance averages around 11000.

As for Wigan, they have been a power house of rugby league for yoars and built up there fan base over those years. Warrington have 20 seasons of catching up to do on them.

Leeds City is 3 times the size of Warrington, so they will always have a bigger pond to fish in that any super league club, with the exception of the possibilities of London who fail to impress season to season and are considered still to be a fledgling club, but to be fair, there junior set up is 2nd to non.

3 seasons back, Warrington were the team everyone wanted to watch as we were an attacking machine, several games were all ticket and sold out.

You do the business on the pitch and the promotion will take care of itself.

I don't get it, I can make limited amounts of games but I'd love to be in a position in which I could watch them all, I'll be honest I don't get as exicted at the build up like I did at Wilderspool but I still love it.

May be Warrington is in a strong position regarding employment & work commitments are the reason a lot people can't make the games ....just a thought .

We need the capacity increasing. No margin, no growth.
Nothing wrong with the product.
Sky schedules can have some small effect, offset by their compensation for viewing rights.

Not viable given our current average attendances, would just be spending money for the sake of it

Surely more disposable income per capita woul make it easier to attract fans?

IIRC leeds wigan and saints all made the switch to friday night games, as sky were changing their fixtures on a regular basis, i'm pretty sure it was said that saints did it aswell as it was better for their corporate hospitality and that , as it was causing them a problem changing dates for that, plus it was deemed that people like to wine and dine people after work on a friday, rather than on a sunday.

I think good old andy has said in the past, we dont' seem to have a problem with that aspect of it, the corporates seem to do quite well on a sunday here.

Yes i agree, but if people are working when games are on then that won't happen & given that many working people are affected by working umpteen part time shifts to make up a working week ,being available to watch a game is not always possible. It doesn't help when games are now being spread over a possible one day from 5 of being played (Thursday/Monday) at short notice & usually to suit sky ,which stops working people from being able to change shifts at short notice.

All in all sky are not interested in the least what the gates are at particular games & no doubt live in hope that fans will give up altogether on live games & invest in sky sports packages. Once the game has died out altogether sky will just find another sport to exploit.

A reduction in match day ticket prices might help, £14 for junior ticket. I have two kids so that's £28 plus if go in west,I need to buy myself a ticket that's £24. £52 just on tickets then the awful food and drinks are over priced. To take a family of 4 to the hj I could go and spend the day at Chester zoo

you won't see any wolves there, they don't have them anymore

No, but I could my face painted like one.

It's £14 to get in for kids at Chester Zoo too, if only they reduced their prices, more people would go and see the animals... except when its high season, like now, its £15.50 and a family of four is £65. You should go every other weekend.

What do you consider short noitice? Haven't the games that have been changed given about 4-5 weeks in advance? But i agree spreading games across the week may make a difference, but some who can't go will be able to make it too, just makes considering a season ticket a more considered purchase.



Well that was total toss.

The point I was making is for what is on offer at the hj. I can get better value for money else where. It's meant to be family game, but the club aren't making it affordable for family's. After you take into account cup tickets then play off tickets, following Wire can be a dear old affair.

If I wanted to see animals in their natural habitat, I would sit in the golden square on a Saturday afternoon.

I just wish the RFL & more pertinently Sky would stop moving fixtures around so much. As a shift worker at the start of the season I plan my Leave & shift swaps around the fixture list ensuring that I am off Sunday afternoons & Friday evenings.

But when Sky start changing games to Monday & Thursday nights I done for. I wont be getting a Season ticket next year because when the Club or Sky move a fixture I cant change my shifts at work at short notice. I will of course be going to every single game that I can, but I expect to miss around 5 games due to Sky moving games.

If any of our Play Off games are on the Thursday night which Sky have touted then I wont be able to see a single play off game because earlier in the year I swapped all my shifts to ensure that I am off on the Friday & Saturday evenings.

I think part of it also comes down to the fact that food and drink in the stadium now costs the same as it does at Old Trafford. How can that be justified in a working class sport?

When we get towards the sharp end of the season it's all to easy for sky to change fixtures at short notice to suit their viewing figures & i am sure it is harder to swap shifts or change days off at the peak of the holiday season , which just happens to coincide with the business end of the rugby season.
Since i finished work i have no problem ,but with the fixture situation as it is now i would have missed a few games had i still been working.

Simple......because people will pay it.

I assume the club don't set the tuck shop prices, they obviously put the catering out to tender.
I think the tender is held by heathcotes of Liverpool.
That's why half the time a scouser is serving.

Complaints of cost and service needs to be forwarded to heathcotes

Never really understood the obcession some folk seem to have with fixtures being moved for TV purposes. They make clear in November which rounds are yet to be confirmed and it doesn't take a genius to look and work out which games are likely to be moved to a Friday or Saturday.

The only games I can think of which have been moved this year are Widnes last week and Leeds H/A. At the end of the day without Sky Sports we wouldn't have a professional game.

Some people plan their lives quite far in advance, this season has probably been the worst for me in the sense of fixture changes, even recently the Widnes and Wakefield games missed due to fixture changes. I have to give more notice to change than Sky give us, so that pretty much screws me up.

The RFL should go back to the playoff format they had last season when attendances were higher, if it wasn't broke why change it?