I agree about shelf life but who is who is SAF?

Sir Alex Ferguson.

Ah!

One thing is for sure, lose on Thursday and the HJ will be absolutely toxic.

I was once just happy we'd won stuff and became quite content to have a few years off from that. 3 CC, 2 LLS and 4? GF appearances was more than I'd ever seen a Warrington team do before. But all that is too long of a way gone for me now.

We need to be absolutely ruthless. As fans, as players, as coaches and board. Why should we not expect to be at the top? We certainly don't strive for it clearly, and thats a problem. The well is dry of my patience. 1 CC in the last 7 years is pants and unnacceptable for teams of our caliber.

We should absolutely be sticking it to the team if we ever want to achieve. They're taking the peas. Wigan, Saints, they will kill to get their way. I want us to be like that. They might be having a tough time of it now but who would bet against those two being in the GF again? Nobody.

Who would bet on us holding on to 5th or 6th and crashing out of the playoffs at the first hurdle? Everyone.

Just thought on as well, they made a big thing of fan/community engagement as part of pre season and supposedly everywhere this year to re-connect with the fans, did that get dropped after the first month? I've not seen anything reported in ages.

I think you may be right. I don't like seeing the place like that (again) & would get no pleasure from it. I have said all season that our back up in the squad is virtually non-existent (having watched several reserve games) ... so I fear for how strong a team we will put out. Toxic HJ not good for kids & others.

Because we went on a winning run they clearly thought that would be enough of a distraction to drop it and everyone one would be ok. How about the whole organisation stands in front of the fans and just be honest.

For those that have Wire TV has anyone noticed that the video "Powell’s verdict on Cas defeat" has been pulled

Cas 2008 vibes with the sit in protest which forced Cullens hand???

I'm a big defender of Powell, and i was all last year, and was deat set on giving him time to impliment his own squad and processes.
And the start of the season i thought "Right he's done what he needed and the results prove it"
But the wheels seem to have started falling off since Mikaele left, and i don't get why.
He hasn't suddenly changed and become a bad coach over night, so the sudden revert back to playing really badly and lack of drive and aggression is an absolute headscratcher. I still put the vast Majority of the blame on the players themselves, but it's still Powells job to change whats happening around, and to drop players who aren't playing well. But he doesn't and can't seem to turn our performances around. So my oppinion is starting to swing towards Powell as a problem aswell.
I think if this is just a purple patch and we sort ourselves out Powell is fine, but if this is the tipping point and we nosedive again we might see him leave. But who would take his place???

Don’t thing it will be that bad but they got booed off on Friday and a large section of the away end were chanting ‘Powell Out’ so you can imagine the toxicity if we lose again at home.

30th July could be telling if he makes it that far.
Next 4 games.

Leeds.
Saints
Wigan.
Wakefield.

Sky have not announced who's on sky that week. But we are on tv for the next 3 weeks now. We are on full public display. The knives are out. I should be saying to right the ship. Nothing less than 4 out of 4 will be sufficient. But, i know that's not gonna happen. I don't know what the answer is.

There has to be real evidence in defeat that they are battling or he goes as most other teams are showing this in adversity

I agree wholeheartedly with those wondering what has changed since the opening 7 games. Say what you will about the standard of teams we played, then and now we look like two totally different teams in every aspect.

[iSomething[/i has gone awry in the dressing room. At the start of the season our resolve, goal-line defence and spirit was massive - I must admit I was astonished at the change.

Now we are back to 2022. Poor body language, flimsy defence and no team ethic.

Was there anything controversial in it or the same old same old?

We could easily be going into the Wakefield game having won 1 of the last 8 games and losing 5 on the bounce. Lose against Wakefield and his position would be untenable even for the super fans.

No idea what was in it, i went to watch it and it started to play and then stopped. Since then i cannot access it. That's why i asked if anyone else was seeing the same .

Daryl was furious and ended up beating up Wolfie, think thats why the video was pulled

Please don't give KF any more ideas.

John Kear has been sacked by Widnes. We usually get someone suggesting he should be our next coach at least once a season, so let's get that over with.

He was being linked with Leeds as a DOR role a few weeks ago

It’s still works and it’s still horrid.
Everyone’s fault but his.
Toxic.

One aspect that baffles me here is statistical analysis of player data, and apparent lack thereof.

As a coach at a professional club, Powell should have data on every facet of every players performance in training and games at his fingertips.

Analysis of such data most definitely is part of his and his coaches teams responsibilities.

So, on the assumption that such analysis takes place, can we expect Dudson (15 metres, 4 drives v Cas) to be dropped? If not, why not? It's not the first time his stats have been appaling.

If something has gone wrong in the dressing room maybe the lopsided, undroppable nature of some performances in the face of damning evidence might be a cause.

Quote ="morrisseyisawire"One aspect that baffles me here is statistical analysis of player data, and apparent lack thereof. As a coach at a professional club, Powell should have data on every facet of every players performance in training and games at his fingertips. Analysis of such data most definitely is part of his and his coaches teams responsibilities. So, on the assumption that such analysis takes place, can we expect Dudson (15 metres, 4 drives v Cas) to be dropped? If not, why not? It's not the first time his stats have been appaling. If something has gone wrong in the dressing room maybe the lopsided, undroppable nature of some performances in the face of damning evidence might be a cause.'" I wondered this too. To think that Green is being kept out of the side by a fellow player with those stats. Or maybe its the old "he does the little things that we can't see". I wonder if Mr Dudson has given up his insurance broker business? https://www.linkedin.com/in/gil-dudson- ... -ba3490a5/

Quote ="morrisseyisawire"One aspect that baffles me here is statistical analysis of player data, and apparent lack thereof. As a coach at a professional club, Powell should have data on every facet of every players performance in training and games at his fingertips. Analysis of such data most definitely is part of his and his coaches teams responsibilities. So, on the assumption that such analysis takes place, can we expect Dudson (15 metres, 4 drives v Cas) to be dropped? If not, why not? It's not the first time his stats have been appaling. If something has gone wrong in the dressing room maybe the lopsided, undroppable nature of some performances in the face of damning evidence might be a cause.'" I wondered this too. To think that Green is being kept out of the side by a fellow player with those stats. Or maybe its the old "he does the little things that we can't see". I wonder if Mr Dudson has given up his insurance broker business? https://www.linkedin.com/in/gil-dudson- ... -ba3490a5/