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| Bored so thought I'd start this. One of these teams will have a lot of players with no contract next week, so who would we take if we could.
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| I would imagine if we take any/some Leigh players after the season we've had there will be a riot on here
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| Quote ="karetaker"Bored so thought I'd start this. One of these teams will have a lot of players with no contract next week, so who would we take if we could.'"
Greg Bird, Paul Aiton and Gigot
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I would imagine if we take any/some Leigh players after the season we've had there will be a riot on here'"
'Charlie knows' that to be true.
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| Quote ="Shazbaz"Greg Bird, Paul Aiton and Gigot'"
Tony Gigot can't play till 2019
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| Quote ="Bobby_Peru"'Charlie knows' that to be true.'"
Good Evening Bobby,I hope you are well and feeling relaxed?Myself I'm a little pensive about Saturday but feeling confident, I take nowt for granted but feel we will beat Cats.
As far as Warrington taking a couple of our players, I would welcome it as long as I could pick them. Maybe James Green,and definately Glenn Stewart,I'm sure most Warrington fans will want Leigh to stay in SL because of the Derby games and the crowds and atmosphere,I'm predicting Leigh by 10 on Saturday, Charlie knows.
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| There is a reason they are all playing in the million pound game and it isn't because they are world beaters!!!
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Quote ="Bobby_Peru"I'm sure most Warrington fans will want Leigh to stay in SL because of the Derby games and the crowds and atmosphere,I'm predicting Leigh by 10 on Saturday, Charlie knows.
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Not this Wire fan. Catalans going down will be a diaaster for the profile and future of the sport domestically and in France.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Not this Wire fan. Catalans going down will be a diaaster for the profile and future of the sport domestically and in France.'"
Definitely do not want Catalans to go down. It is the best weekend in the calendar, I would be gutted to miss out on the annual trip.
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| 4,000 Leythers in the west stand vs a dozen Frenchies....No brainer.
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"There is a reason they are all playing in the million pound game and it isn't because they are world beaters!!!'"
Did Albert Kelly play in the MPG last year?
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| Rank bad game management from Catalan to turn down a certain two points from a last minute penalty right in front of the sticks and get the one point from the draw.
Threw away what would have been home advantage for them instead of now having to travel to Leigh.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Not this Wire fan. Catalans going down will be a diaaster for the profile and future of the sport domestically and in France.'"
You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but Cats don't bring anything to RL just take,I suppose you want Toronto in SL, what if it was at the expense of Warrington?As has been said 4000 Leythers at the HJ or 50 Cats fans?
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but Cats don't bring anything to RL just take,I suppose you want Toronto in SL, what if it was at the expense of Warrington?As has been said 4000 Leythers at the HJ or 50 Cats fans?'"
Actually, I'd rather see Toulouse, Catalans AND Leigh in SL, at the expense of Widnes who are just treading water.
But if Cats go down, the professional game in RL is in big trouble, and that will only be to the benefit of RU. A strong Catalans team with a backbone of emerging french talent benefits ALL of RL, not least the international game.
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| I'm audio this four thousand leythers figure is if we play them about 4 times at home next year? regular season, challenge cup, super 8s and play offs?
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but Cats don't bring anything to RL just take,I suppose you want Toronto in SL, what if it was at the expense of Warrington?As has been said 4000 Leythers at the HJ or 50 Cats fans?'"
Incidentally, aren't Toronto averaging better core home support than several SL clubs, including Leigh, even allowing for zero travelling support and very few competitve fixtures?
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Actually, I'd rather see Toulouse, Catalans AND Leigh in SL, at the expense of Widnes who are just treading water.
But if Cats go down, the professional game in RL is in big trouble, and that will only be to the benefit of RU. A strong Catalans team with a backbone of emerging french talent benefits ALL of RL, not least the international game.'"
What a shame. Did your club vote for the new structure. Where's your facts on the game will suffer? If they do go down, what's to say it won't make their game stronger! After all the Championship is looking more exciting than SL for next season.
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| Loosing Catalans out of SL would be devastating for the game. Losing Leigh would be bad. but wouldn't have that much of an effect. SL and Rugby league in general HAS to have a strong presence and strong international French side.
If we can get Toronto in SL it wont be long till north America jumps on board. We're a small sport, we need footholds in other nations. Catalans are a massive foothold.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Did Albert Kelly play in the MPG last year?'"
Yes he did, and in my opinion he is not a world beater. Marc Sneyd has been more influential for Hull this season.
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"Yes he did, and in my opinion he is not a world beater. Marc Sneyd has been more influential for Hull this season.'"
He's on the shortlist for Man of Steel.
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| I understand their massive strategic importance to the sport, but this is sport, not Game Of Thrones, where we must keep an alliance with the French, and marry Richie Myler off to Remi Casty to keep a strategic stronghold over the narrow sea.
Cats have been a SL club since 2005. I know 12 years is no time compared to the "established" clubs, but it's certainly long enough to establish themselves as a viable SL team both competitively and in terms of building a fanbase, especially given their "artificial" leg-up.
Cats are a grown up SL club. If they go down, and can't sustain themselves, then they were a house of cards, and never truly a viable team in the first place. If we don't want that, scrap promotion/relegation, strangle the Championsip and revert back to franchises. That's worse for the growth of the game IMO.
I would still prefer to see Widnes go down though!
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| Quote ="Jimathay"I understand their massive strategic importance to the sport, but this is sport, not Game Of Thrones, where we must keep an alliance with the French, and marry Richie Myler off to Remi Casty to keep a strategic stronghold over the narrow sea.
Cats have been a SL club since 2005. I know 12 years is no time compared to the "established" clubs, but it's certainly long enough to establish themselves as a viable SL team both competitively and in terms of building a fanbase, especially given their "artificial" leg-up.
Cats are a grown up SL club. If they go down, and can't sustain themselves, then they were a house of cards, and never truly a viable team in the first place. If we don't want that, scrap promotion/relegation, strangle the Championsip and revert back to franchises. That's worse for the growth of the game IMO.
I would still prefer to see Widnes go down though!'"
Catalan Dragons are the result of a merger in 2000 between XIII Catalan (founded in 1934) and AS Saint Estève (founded in 1965) and played 6 seasons before entering SL. Remember Catalan Dragons is not an expansionist club, French RL has been going since the mid 1930's.
I'm sure they will cope. Without promotion or relegation the game will become even duller than it already is.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"He's on the shortlist for Man of Steel.'"
Again you are absolutely correct. Did you watch him against Leeds last week, he couldn't catch cold. He did not have an effective cup final to boot. Who would you have from this years likely candidates?
He wouldn't be in my top 3 for man of steel. They would all be from Castleford, they won the league by a country mile. I think Millington and McMeekin and have had better seasons. But lets give it to a half.
Joining in with the rest of the debate, I think it would be a tragedy for the Dragons to be relegated. A lot of time and effort has been put in to establish this Super League team, regardless of past history. But the rules for the season were know by everyone prior to the start of the season. If they win we have an away day to the continent, if not we have another Derby.
For me, we should keep the promotion and relegation. One up and one down, get rid of this Million pound game farce However, to be promoted you must meet criteria set down by the league. Criteria that cannot be changed from one season to the next or during a season depending on who it looks may be going down. Criteria that you have to meet prior to the season commencing. Which means if you win the Championship then you are up.
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| 14 league team, bottom two and top two play each other to determine who goes up and down. Do a MPG if so wish.
Will roll same time as playoff between top 6. Those 6 teams left can do what they want, they're not good enough to win the league. It'll be a short play off system (QF, SF between lowest placed teams to play highest placed QF's) so if they don't play, it's not an issue.
Catalan are too important to go down, but not our problem they've drifted aimlessly, not too dissimilar to Hull KR last year. Done them a world of good going down though.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Catalan Dragons are the result of a merger in 2000 between XIII Catalan (founded in 1934) and AS Saint Estève (founded in 1965) and played 6 seasons before entering SL. Remember Catalan Dragons is not an expansionist club, French RL has been going since the mid 1930's.'"
Easy now, we don't want this turning into the Catalans version of that "Where/when did Warrington [iactually[/i play their first game" thread
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