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| starting to look grim Tomkins now a doubt as is ryan hall whos next?
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| Bring in Luke Robinson and Leroy Cudjoe. Christ, it hurts typing it.
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"Bring in Luke Robinson and Leroy Cudjoe. Christ, it hurts typing it.'"
Watching it will be far more painful
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"Bring in[u Luke Robinson and Leroy Cudjoe[/u. Christ, it hurts typing it.'" Can you imagine those two,eyeballing the kiwis as they prepare to do the haka....
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| The team is
Widdop
Briscoe
Shenton
Atkins
Goulding
Brown
Tomkins S
Fielden
Roby
Graham
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O'Loughlin
Robinson
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"The team is
Widdop
Briscoe
Shenton
Atkins
Goulding
Brown
Tomkins S
Fielden
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin
Robinson
Westwood
Griffin
Tomkins J'"
For me, Roby is no starting hooker, makes more of an impact from the bench.
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| No one else to do it though.
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| No Ben Harrison but Joel 'penalty machine' Tomkins on the bench
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"No Ben Harrison but Joel 'try scoring, off loading, tackle busting machine' Tomkins on the bench
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Typo corrected.
Joel has scored over 6 times more tries and made over 6 times more tackle busts than Ben. Yes, he's conceded 3 times more penalties but maybe, just maybe, the pros outweigh the cons...
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"No Ben Harrison but Joel 'penalty machine' Tomkins on the bench
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I'd have had them both on the bench and not included Griffin.
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| Quote ="Wigan Stu"Typo corrected.
Joel has scored over 6 times more tries and made over 6 times more tackle busts than Ben. Yes, he's conceded 3 times more penalties but maybe, just maybe, the pros outweigh the cons...'"
Lets see how many tackle busts and tries he accumulates on Saturday then. If he continues where he left off last season with high and late tackles the NZ pack will send him home in a bucket.
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| Quote ="Wigan Stu"Typo corrected.
Joel has scored over 6 times more tries and made over 6 times more tackle busts than Ben. Yes, he's conceded 3 times more penalties but maybe, just maybe, the pros outweigh the cons...'"
And made more tackles, fewer missed tackles, more offloads, more clean breaks etc. Maybe the coach thinks having Tomkins attacking coming off the bench is a better option for the team, especially considering Harrisons poor defensive stats.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=2163&hs2=2010&hp2=1813&stat=missed_tackles&season=2010[/url
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And made more tackles, fewer missed tackles, more offloads, more clean breaks etc. Maybe the coach thinks having Tomkins attacking coming off the bench is a better option for the team, especially considering Harrisons poor defensive stats.
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=2163&hs2=2010&hp2=1813&stat=missed_tackles&season=2010[/url'"
I actually agree that Joel Tomkins is better, but using stat's is a stupid argument. Statistically Myler is a better attacking threat than Sam Tomkins. I'm pretty sure you'd agree that isn't correct.
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| I don't see the point of playing Westwood from the bench as you wouldn't class him as an impact player.
Whose the little general in that side whose going to take us round the pitch, i see no natural organiser in that side and no decent tactical kicker.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Whose the little general in that side whose going to take us round the pitch, i see no natural organiser in that side and no decent tactical kicker.'"
I think this has been missing for years in the GB/England set-up, you know the kind of role that a certain Mr Briers got overlooked for GB many times.
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| We are going to get murdered. That's the weakest England team I've seen on paper for some time, and we werent any good when it looked good on paper.
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| I would of swapped Westwood and Fielden and put Burgess to Prop. Also shows how poor our backs are when Goulding is playing. Hes had a good season at Wigan but is not international standard.
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| Name 5 players on that team who are genuine international standard? Graham, Burgess, Ellis, Tomkins. And, erm....
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| Quote ="magic piano"Name 5 players on that team who are genuine international standard? Graham, Burgess, Ellis, Tomkins. And, erm....'"
Roby imo.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Roby imo.'"
I'd agree with that.
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| Even if I agreed (which I don't), it's still only 5!
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| were going to get tonked.
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| Quote ="74'"I'd agree with that.'"
I also think O'Loughlin but I doubt i'd hear much agreement around here!
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