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| How do you think he has performed this year, and would you have him back next season if given the choice?
He is a very hard working player with a good attitude but I feel his kicking game is mediocre and he runs the ball too much, which stifles our backline play.
I thought against Saints he showed a worrying lack of composure second half for someone so experienced, aimless kicks, poor 5th play options and the one straight at Saints player was laughable.
I am not sure he is worth the big money he must be on, saying that I presume he is a great looking room and on the pitch presence.
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| Quote ="Quickening"How do you think he has performed this year, and would you have him back next season if given the choice?
He is a very hard working player with a good attitude but I feel his kicking game is mediocre and he runs the ball too much, which stifles our backline play.
I thought against Saints he showed a worrying lack of composure second half for someone so experienced, aimless kicks, poor 5th play options and the one straight at Saints player was laughable.
I am not sure he is worth the big money he must be on, saying that I presume he is a great looking room and on the pitch presence.'"
MOM for me -well, apart from Hilly. His tackling was excellent, he constantly moved the ball and attacked their line. I liked the combination with Patton as well it seems to work well.
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| Great in defence, a threat in attack, a leader on and off the field and for me a brilliant signing. I don't see the problem. I can see what you mean about 5th tackle plays the bomb wasn't working OK it meant that we kept saints pinned back but it was not an option we were ever likely to score off and for me it didn't put saints under enough pressure. Maybe somebody else should have been trying a different option, at the very least we should have targeted owens he dropped the only kick he tried to field.
In general though I am glad he is here and glad he will still be around next season.
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| His decision making can be very poor at times
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| Gidley was brilliant yesterday, more so first half, but overall close to MotM, along with Hill (natch) and Patton. Mr Underrated Hughes was great too. And your comment re the kick to the St Helens' player, well wow, he didn't get every single kick where he wanted it. So what, he's human, not a machine. Top marks for Kurt Gidley.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Gidley was brilliant yesterday, more so first half, but overall close to MotM, along with Hill (natch) and Patton. Mr Underrated Hughes was great too. And your comment re the kick to the St Helens' player, well wow, he didn't get every single kick where he wanted it. So what, he's human, not a machine. Top marks for Kurt Gidley.'"
I cannot think of a single good kick he did in the whole game, that one I mentioned was an example of a school boy error.
Doing aimless "bombs" which don't go very high or move much, or kicking into touch around the 20 metre line are not good kicks.
We should have been trapping Saints behind their line, on there line or doing quality chips to the corner with how we dominated field position at times.
Watch the nrl final on Sunday, and they will show how execute kicks that hurt the opponent, not just give them the ball back which invites pressure, which we seen yesterday.
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| Quote ="Quickening"I cannot think of a single good kick he did in the whole game, that one I mentioned was an example of a school boy error.
Doing aimless "bombs" which don't go very high or move much, or kicking into touch around the 20 metre line are not good kicks.
We should have been trapping Saints behind their line, on there line or doing quality chips to the corner with how we dominated field position at times.
Watch the nrl final on Sunday, and they will show how execute kicks that hurt the opponent, not just give them the ball back.'"
Have you stopped to consider that the high kicks were a tactic devised by Tony Smith and executed by Gidley and Patton? I reckon Gidley made only one really poor kick ( straight to Lomax - and even then the Wire line speed snuffed out any danger ) and several others did the job of pinning Saints back deep in their own half. How you can slag off Gidley when he has been excellent all season is beyond me. Perhaps you didn't notice that he made the Dream Team?
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| But Gidley doesn't do that sort of thing. He did what the team needed last night.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"But Gidley doesn't do that sort of thing. He did what the team needed last night.'"
We nearly lost against a poor Saints team because we invited pressure for the last 20 minutes, poor 5th play options and kicks were the catalyst for that.
He certainly didn't do what the team needed, if he did we win yesterday's game comfortably.
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| Quote ="Quickening"We nearly lost against a poor Saints team because we invited pressure for the last 20 minutes, poor 5th play options and kicks were the catalyst for that.
He certainly didn't do what the team needed, if he did we win yesterday's game comfortably.'"
For twenty years we continuously lost to Saints by narrow margins. No doubt we were brilliant in all those games against outstanding Saints teams. Maybe I lack ambition but I'll take a close win over a 'poor' Saints team in a play-off semi any time.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"For twenty years we continuously lost to Saints by narrow margins. No doubt we were brilliant in all those games against outstanding Saints teams. Maybe I lack ambition but I'll take a close win over a 'poor' Saints team in a play-off semi any time.'"
Of course, but that doesn't mean being oblivious to poor play.
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| He was great last night. Took the ball right to the line. his fitness is out of this world.
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| I can't really believe we are having this discussion. Were you sitting behind me last night and after 10 minutes commented "Our defence is awful"?
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"I can't really believe we are having this discussion. Were you sitting behind me last night and after 10 minutes commented "Our defence is awful"?'"
Indeed. everyone is entitled to an opinion but 'Gidley was poor'???????
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| FFS lock this now!
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Indeed. everyone is entitled to an opinion but 'Gidley was poor'???????'"
His game management and kicking in the second half was certainly poor... not sure what game you were watching.
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| The clue is in the term, Supporter ie support your team, your players, your club, your town. The club had a(not her) great victory last night, every player, inexperienced and experienced gave everything for the club, getting us to the Grand Final. So what happens, we then single out an individual and accuse them of being useless. I just don't get it. He could have done some things better, but none of us are perfect. We can all have opinions on players, the team, tactics etc and this site enables it but let's keep it constructive not destructive.
For me, Gidley had a great game last night, he helped to steer the team around and scored a great try. One other player who has been singled out for criticism on here over the last few weeks is Stefan Ratchford, he also had another great game for me. Let's get behind the lads and Support them in the GF.
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| Gidley took some big hits last night.
We still have the problem of finding it difficult to score from close to the line. It would be nice for Gidley ,or anyone else for that matter, to throw defences into disarray with a well timed dummy. We spend too much time with the ball just going from one side of the pitch to the other & eating into the tackle count & wasting energy.
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| Kurt Gidley was quality last night, he lead the team around the park and the game management was 100% better than the Wigan game 2 weeks ago.
He has been a signing that has seen increased levels of professionalism at the club. A signing that the club needed at the right time. I am not quite sure we would have ended up with 2 Final appearances and finished as League leaders without his presence at our club.
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| OP asks for thoughts on his season as a whole, then justifies their opinion by criticizing him in one game.
Gidley made the SL dream team.
In 20 years, Warrington have only had a halfback named in there once before.
Bring back Chris Bridge and GOB in the halves...
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| Seriously, some people are never happy, are they?
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| Quote ="Quickening"I cannot think of a single good kick he did in the whole game, that one I mentioned was an example of a school boy error.
Doing aimless "bombs" which don't go very high or move much, or kicking into touch around the 20 metre line are not good kicks.
We should have been trapping Saints behind their line, on there line or doing quality chips to the corner with how we dominated field position at times.
Watch the nrl final on Sunday, and they will show how execute kicks that hurt the opponent, not just give them the ball back which invites pressure, which we seen yesterday.'"
They weren't aimless, they stopped saints catching in goal and rushing to start on the 20 and made sure saints started their sets as close to their line as possible. It was hugely important not to gives cheap ground last night and the kicks Gidley was putting in did just the job. Sure I would have liked us to test their line more on our final plays but managing the territory is just as important at this stage of the season (if not more so) and that box was ticked.
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| Quote ="Wolf Hall"The clue is in the term, Supporter ie support your team, your players, your club, your town. The club had a(not her) great victory last night, every player, inexperienced and experienced gave everything for the club, getting us to the Grand Final. So what happens, we then single out an individual and accuse them of being useless. I just don't get it. He could have done some things better, but none of us are perfect. We can all have opinions on players, the team, tactics etc and this site enables it but let's keep it constructive not destructive.
For me, Gidley had a great game last night, he helped to steer the team around and scored a great try. One other player who has been singled out for criticism on here over the last few weeks is Stefan Ratchford, he also had another great game for me. Let's get behind the lads and Support them in the GF.'"
I never said he was useless, no need to use hyperbole to go off on a random tangent about what makes a good supporter.
I just don't think he was great last night, and hasn't been a lot of the season. It doesn't surprise me he got motm last night or got into the dream team because they go to the big names a lot of the time.
I personally just don't think he justifies the big part of the cap he takes up.
A couple of controversial decisions don't go our way and we lose to that saints team last night. I think that is because we still lack a composed player to lead us around in high pressure situations.
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| Quote ="CW8"They weren't aimless, they stopped saints catching in goal and rushing to start on the 20 and made sure saints started their sets as close to their line as possible. It was hugely important not to gives cheap ground last night and the kicks Gidley was putting in did just the job. Sure I would have liked us to test their line more on our final plays but managing the territory is just as important at this stage of the season (if not more so) and that box was ticked.'"
How many drop outs did saints have to do last night, considering we spent so much time in their half... how many tries did we score off kicks, how many times did we trap them within their ten metre line?
Giving quality teams a scrum on their 20 metre line, or an aimless bomb which gets caught on their 20 metre line isn't good enough.
A win obviously glosses over these type of things, I just hope we don't lose the grand final because of this.
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| Quote ="Quickening"How many drop outs did saints have to do last night, considering we spent so much time in their half... how many tries did we score off kicks, how many times did we trap them within their ten metre line?
Giving quality teams a scrum on their 20 metre line, or an aimless bomb which gets caught on their 20 metre line isn't good enough.
A win obviously glosses over these type of things, I just hope we don't lose the grand final because of this.'"
You must have been an awesome player in your youth.
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