I'm sat here in Spain watching this game, this is a shadow of the team of 2-3 years ago, we've had a couple of tough calls but we are creating nothing at all. We topped the league., everyone has moved on , we've gone backwards

More like ppl are 2-3 years older and in some cases that's too old

Cullens team was never this bad.. and they were a gang of drunks.

The whole league has gone backwards in terms of quality. We have gone back an equal measure in quality but miles back in terms of game plans, work ethic and coaching

You are having a laugh now.

We are in agreement md

it doesn't happen very often... but this current side is shameful.

Certainly not far off. Something stinks in this team. Smith has stayed too long - now we know why he never stayed anywhere too long - he can't rebuild a team and certainly can't coach one without the quality of the likes of briers and Monaghan.

We should have won a couple of grand finals when we had a quality team with all the players in their late 20s/early 30s... we didn't manage it, and haven't seemingly bothered to rebuild, just happy to fade into mediocrity.

First time nilled at HWJ ever.

Smith couldnt win a grand final with Monaghan, Morley, Carvell, Briers etc...... he sure as hell isnt going to win one with the current squad he has assembled.

The progression has stopped, cullen did some good things but couldn't get us to that next level he got us to the door n smith opened it but has yet to take is thru that door

Wire just look totally clueless, totally rudderless,(is Monaghan still captain? )create very little, appear to have no game plan at all, just awful, compare to free flowing stuff a couple of years ago.

it's like seeing a once great boxer with fast hands,just swinging wildly nowhere near his opponent.

It's not that good

We're worse than that!

I feel sick what is going on at the club, can Simon Moran see what the fans are watching, ENOUGH SAID

Simon Moran was stood in front of me in the South stand in the first half, so he must be aware of the depth of feeling on the terraces.

What annoys me is that we make the same mistakes week I week out, play the same unproductive rugby too which doesn't work. What are they doing during the week to change things. From what I can see...nothing.

I thought the same.....what on earth is going on at training? They play like strangers.

I did something for the 1st time ever tonight in 40 years watching the Wire - I left with 15 minutes still to play. Even in the Anderson/Plange/DVDV days I never left that early.

What I have seen tonight is a team without heart, without leadership and certainly without any sort of gameplan.

The blame for me lies fairly and squarely at Tony Smith's door, no-one else's. He won us 3 challenge cups and gave us false hope in 2 grand finals but enough is enough, it's time to politely say thank you and show him and his team the door.

I don't know who we should get in to replace him, but I'm just a lowly supporter who has spent 40 years waiting for us to really come good - and who also won't be attending another game this season, so what do I know.

Rant over

+1 and plus 5 minutes.

Fair play for the 40 years support but what tony smith has done for this club HAS allowed us to come really good. It's cemented in history the challenge cup successes as well as 2011 League shield. Tonight's game was a poor showing by any standards of super league but the guy has earnt the time to turn it around.

It's 3 years since we won anything, and IN MY OPINION I don't think that's good enough from what Smith has had at his disposal..... 2 years to replace Briers?? Come on...

I can live with an out of sorts attack.. But no aggression or intensity in defence at home V Wigan?? Sorry that's just disgraceful ...
If the team plan to just go through the motions with no effort at all for the remainder of the season then they should let the fans know who part with thier hard earned..

Yours well and truly F####D off..!

Are you a new a Wire supporter by any chance? Best thing for you is to support a Leeds for a bit and come back when we're sorted for next season. Actually don't come back.

TS has'nt had his best season by a long way and things arn't quite right but give the man a chance.

aww you poor thing..3 years? how did you manage for the previous 30+ then?