I hope he's ok.

Just read that on teletext sounds pretty bad...Hope the lad is ok..

Sounds nasty hope hes ok...

I heard somewhere he swallowed his tongue then went into fits


Hope he's okay!

Hope hes okay.........top player.

Just read same on text. What with the current context of things, if anything like this happens (as it has), we're fearing the worst.

Hopefully he will recover and be back soon

Hope he is OK, he has a bright future within the game. Just hope this does not ruin his confidence. Its not nice to see any player get hurt.

According to the Cas board he's ok...In hospital for observation..

really glad to hear that Joe is going to be okay. He is a real talent and no one likes to hear of any player being badly hurt.

Not possible

Glad to hear he is ok, sounds a real nasty thing. He is a real talent with a bright future ahead of him.

yes it is, it happened to Paul Bishop, and I remember it happening to Paul Lake when he played for City

doesn't mean you literally swallow your tongue, but if you get knocked out your tongue can flop back into your throat and stop you breathing, which is why players who get knocked out are usually turned onto their side by their teammates

That's good to know, hopefully he will be back on the rugby field soon.

The mouth is also one of the first things they check, for 'swallowing' of the tongue/gumshield.

Hope the lad is okay, whatever happened to him.

ie the recovery position!

Not really possible (or advised) when he is fitting though really, only when he has stopped when fitting you shouldn't move at all unless they are in danger by not doing so.

Having been at the game yesterday it was scary to see him down on the pitch fitting and the length of the gap in play only added to the worry so I am very pleased to hear he should soon be alright and hopefully he will be back on the pitch soon.

It happened to Ben Westwood against Huddersfield a couple of seasons ago I think it was now.

Luckily Ben was ok and back playing the next game I think, hopefully the same is true for Joe.

He was discharged from Hospital last night and is back training this week.

Everything OK

It sounds like an impact seizure which are generally in the grand scheme of things not a big deal he should just give himself a couple of weeks off and he'd be fine
Good luck

thanks for that info, i can return to my job in A&E a little more confident now



i was discussing mates turning players onto their sides rather than what to do when some one is having either a grand mal or petit mal seizure, i asummed it was obvious not to start wrestling with some one until they stop fitting unless their airway is obstructed in any way (then you would have to try to extend the head backwards and lift the chin to open the airway) placing fingers in the mouth a defo no no in these cases as i have heard stories of people losing fingers in past.

i was a combat medic in the army for 5 years (RAMC) and have been a registered nurse since 1990 (warrington school of nursing)

i may know naff all about rugby but first aid i know a little

As a total layman to flatter me most, i would guess it is not wise to move someone who is having seizure incase it damages any nerves/CNS? On side the body is restricted in which way it can move which might put pressure on these and the joints?

Interesting that you mentioned Grand Mal and Petit mal. Had a quick look on net and had this to say on page i landed on from searching Grand mal (or Tonic-clonic seizure as apparently is the current name).

Infact seems in most cases it is the best to leave them until the professionals arrive


Really wish i had opportunity to do First aid course at work but won't let me




Which is suggesting recovery position as best position. But incase of a Rugby player you have to consider if there are any other injuries, and doubt they knew it was going to happen.

To be fair some of the "views" I have encountered as a first aid trainer you can't assume anything about what people will do, especially when you ask "what would you do if you found someone having a fit?" it is quiet worrying the amount who (before properly trained) say they would put them straight into recovery position/restrain their movements/put something in their mouth etc etc so no nothing is obvious it seems!!


And WOTT - you don't need to do it through work, it is possible to book yourself onto a first aid course and basic courses are as short as 4 hours (ok they don't cover everything but they give you a basic knowledge). Recovery position is what is normally used after a seizure until the person comes round, but your right and if you suspect any form of head/spinal injury there are other ways to proceed (jaw thrust or log roll generally) depending on the amount of people available to assist - the key is to maintain the airway really.

Yeah, i know it's just finding the time like most things (silly reason i know), if i could have done it through work it would have been in working time and at no cost to myself. Ah well get round to it eventually.

you got another film in the offering WOTT?