just reading frankie boyles autobiography at the moment and thought i'd like to share this quote..

"another thing about football-it's a bit gay.Guys fretting over some lads calf or hamstring- they might as well f**k each other in the centre circle"

it made me chuckle..... cos it's true

I can't post on here my fav Frankie Boyle quote. But it still has me chuckling now.

Hey! I'm a footballer, I don't want to screw anyone in the centre circle, apart from my girlfriend.

To footballers all rugby players are puffs. To rugby players all football players are puffs. Neither are. I respect both sports.

If a footballer thinks a rugby player is a puff because of the sport, he needs to give his a head a wobble. There's no pansying about in RL.

I think its all the 'touchy feel' myth more about Union than League.

If you mean homosexuals, then I guarantee that some players of both sports are. Though I can only think of Justin Fashanu, Ian Roberts and Gareth Thomas who've been willing to 'admit' it.

I find the weird rivalry between football and rugby (either code) supporters, on internet forums at least, bizarre. Post about football on rugby forum and it'll be denounced as "wendyball", pansy sport, etc - the usual insults that crop up here. Post about rugby on a football forum and it'll be denounced as egg chasing with players either gay*, fat, toothless, too untalented to play football, or whatever.

Yet you can seemingly post about other sports like boxing, darts, cricket, horseracing or whatever else takes your fancy on any forum and no one bats an eyelid. I don't get the football V rugby thing.

*I've not got a problem with gays myself like, but it seems to be a common insult in these instances.

That's because there is a large amount of jealousy held by the fans of each sport towards the other.

Rugby fans (and I include Union to some extent in this) would love the money thrown about in football to be present in our game, the media coverage, the globality & not parochiality of the game, and truth be told a greater recognition for the players on a physical side.

Football fans however would love to have their clubs in touch with local fans, to be able to stop a player & chat as he walks round the supermarket, to actually live with the players as friends & neighbours rather than untouchables in Wilmslow, to be able to speak the same language as the players & know that in a majority of cases they are there to play for the club & fans not just to trip over an obscene pay packet, and to have the respect for players and official usually demonstrated in both rugby codes while eliminating the cheating and diving that goes on in every match.

There is a large amount of looking over the fence at the other with a little bit of envy. Fans of each sport believe their's to be the greatest game. We all know in fact that rugby is the far superior game played by superior athletes & people and watched by superior fans...

Quite a few valid points there, and speaking as someone who regularly attends top flight matches in both sports I can see positives and negatives on both sides compared to the other - in terms of both the sports themselves, and the so called "match day experience".

Neither code of rugby is ever going to be as popular in this country as football, and that's just the way it is. Even in Warrington I would say there are more football fans than RL fans, it's just that because the town has no professional club of it's own, the football support is split while 90% of rugby fans support the same team. Obviously there are many people who like both sports.

The sames goes for other sports too though - cricket and boxing aren't as popular as football either, but there doesn't seem to be the same sense of rivalry between the sports.

I know where people are coming from, but lets face it, in Rugby you dont get the metrosexuals like Ronaldo, with his baby oil and suntan prancing round in his undies. Its a mans game.

If football wants to lose the soft, gay, wendy ball tag, then they need to man up!

I mean come on, the slightest touch of a boot, they do somersaults and roll around feigning injury and screaming. There was minimal contact, and theyre "hurt". If that happened in Rugby as often as football and to the extent it is,they wouldnt be seen on the pitch again, theyd be too ashamed!!

I know one or two players, Lee Briers being one, has feigned injury, but nowhere near the extent that some of them wendyball tarts do.

Iv helped out the local pub football team too, played at centre half, and put the shoulder on someone when challenging for the ball, rather than challenge back, he went down like a sack of spuds trying to get a free kick feigning injury, and it wernt that much of a shoulder barge. Absolutely pathetic, and i told him so too. Cue the plastic scouse Widnes accent weasel trying to kick off with me and then avoiding me all game. Poof!

Rant over!

I stand corrected. He had a Bang Tidy mrs though.

Would I be correct to assume you play in nets and want to scrum down near the hooker, or have I read it wrong

anyway the frankie boyle book's funny!

i laughed all the way through it... have you read frank skinners?

thats absolute class... if you like laughing all the way through a book read this one.



1p on amazon

I dont have a issue with either sport.I can easliy watch a game of football at any level,and enjoy it.Same goes for rugby and thats both codes.I enjoyed watching the tests game yesterday.What gets my back in football and rugby is some of the supporters.You can have decent conversation with some but each team will have some total tools.Who cant see anything but their own team.And that does go for Wire fans as well.The worst set of fans in football for me are Man Utd and in rugby it has to be Wigan.

i never understand this, a person could be 'a really big united fan', but they only go to the occasonal match but follow them on the television. If this same person said 'i'm a really big wires fan' and then went on to say they only went the occasional match they would be called an armchair supporter.

i dont like football though

I'm not "a really big United fan". In fact I hate them. However, as irony would have it I now find myself living less than half an hour's walk from their ground meaning, funnily enough, I do know a few "really big United fans" and they would most definitely regard the people you describe as armchair supporters and not "really big United fans" at all.

One mitigating circumstance mind, is that it's far easier to be priced out of supporting your team in football than it is in rugby. That doesn't mean the passion within you dries up just because your bank balance does though.

Football is progressively becoming unwatchable for me. I appreciate this is only my opinion, but its so pedantic you can't even fart near an opposing player without conceding a free kick. I tuned into the Liverpool Chelsea game yesterday and ended up switching over. There was a time when I'd happily sit down and watch two bigger teams for 90 minutes and enjoy it. However, the ref was either gaining some weird sexual pleasure from the mouth to whistle oral contact or the players were simply kidding him. I'll go with the latter to be fair.

Shame too. When I watch Prem League years from early 90's, it was a terrific sport to watch. I even managed (although I can't remember which channel) to stumble across as archive game from the 80's and these footballers were proper men. They didn't give a rat's , and unless the challenges were astonishingly wreckless, the whistle stayed silent.

I went to the game you mentioned yesterday and, with the exceptions of the Challenge Cup semi and final, I enjoyed it more than any Warrington match last season (Wigan away included).

As you say, it's just about opinions and personal preference.

My posts earlier in this thread about the perceived rivalry between the two sports reflect my views. They're both great games, but they're completely different games, so why there's needle between SOME (not all I know) fans of either towards the other is needless in my opinion.

Same for me, I used to love waking up to soccer am and then watching the game that followed it and the 4 hours of football on a sunday. But over the last couple of years the games have become so boring to watch( especially the games involving the "top 4"icon_wink.gif

How much you pay at Anfield nowadays?

£38-45

Jeez. Must be seats at the side with a good view?

Nope. For "Category A" games (United, Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal and City) it's £43 in the Kop and £45 in every other stand - including the opposite end. There's also a £2.50 booking fee for buying online, which is by far the easiest way to get tickets, so in reality you pay up to £47.50. The cheapest tickets are £38 for "Category C" games in the Kop. As an aside you also need a £29 membership (which I didn't renew this summer in protest at the then owners, although I've started going again now they've gone) in order to buy tickets in the first place.

We're not the most expensive in the Premier League though. All London clubs charge more than that, and even in the North West, our away tickets at City in August were £48 so I turned down the offer of one.

Any RL fans with no interest in football might get an appreciation from this as to why [isome[/i people who support a football club don't actually go and watch them very often.