England suddenly look better when Tomkins at FB - he's the most potent attacking force we have & should be allowed to attack the line when & where he wants from the back of the play. No scrum half, only one hooker who is an impact hooker not controlling hooker, no 3/4 line of any ability, players out of position & not playing with any passion.

A bloody disaster from coach down.

I don't think O'loughlin would be able to control a game against the Aussies at 6, i think we have no choice but to keep tomkins in the halves, but maybe with Robinson at 7. I'd also bring Carvell and Crabtree in for Griffin and Fielden, who were both poor today and offered nothing going forward.

1 Widdop/Tomkins
2 Briscoe
3 Shenton
4 Ellis/J tomkins
5 Goulding
6 Widdop/Tomkins
7 Robinson
8 Burgess
9 Roby
10 Graham
11 Westwood
12 Ellis/ J Tomkins
13 O'Loughlin

14 Crabtree
15 Carvell
16 Lunt
17 Cudjoe/Hall

I just think Carvell will be an absolute turnstile against the aussies, at least Fielden can defend.

And I agree I don't think O'Loughlin can control a game BUT Tomkins has to be at FB for me.

Atkins got shown up big time.

Fielden needs to start next week, we showed an ability to stem the flow with him and Graham on the field.

Fielden did start, and was one of the main reasons we went in 12-0 down. Not good enough at this level.

We were much better when Robinson came on. We were very clueless in attack in the first half. Tomkins should definitley play at full back, Widdop's knock on from the high ball was pretty shocking and their is no way you can afford to do that against the best. Ah well, it's our final match next week, setting up a final for Aus V NZ, again. If Smith can't beat them, McNamara won't.