When it comes to the cost of his visit, I've heard differing figures ranging from £12m to £15m, but at least 50% was funded by the Catholic church (some out of my own pocket).

If you don't agree with the tax payer having to foot any of his cost, you can blame Gordon Brown as he was the one who invited His Holiness.

Just thought I'd throw this in...

"Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the *poison of immorality* which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of *liberal excess* during the past ... (few) years."

[The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872

Sound familiar?

I never said that child abuse was solely a catholic problem. The problem i have regarding this whole distasteful issue is that the higher echelons of the church knew exactly what was happening and decided to close there eyes and ears to it all.

Phil Clarke on his support for Wigan.

Are the Catholic church still against condoms and queers?

Religion is archaic, their persistence with things like the 10 commandments is embarrassing.

And Hitler and his national socialist party when in power were imprisoning and killing Christians of all denominations (and other religious groups) who opposed them while setting up their own national religion obedient only to the fuhrer..

Maybe it just proves that megalomaniac xenophobic evil genocidal mass murderers don't always tell the truth.