Hello All.

It's been brought to my attention that this board is getting a tad fractious.

Now we all know that two of the mods, having done sterling service for years, have decided to hand in their modding badges.

At present, that means this is a little short handed.

So, while we attempt to steady matters, I shall be looking in on a frequent basis.

Now, I don't want to have to [ido[/i anything.

I don't want to hand out bans; I don't want to find myself locking threads or editing them.

How that works is entirely up to you.

To help facilitate matters, this thread is going to stay open for reasonable discussion about the future of the board.

I will also create a new thread, so that, within the rules of the AUP, you can do a spot of venting spleens, if you so desire. Note – still within the basic bounds of the AUP – so no slagging off your fellow board users; no content that wouldn't pass the watershed test and nothing libelous, no matter how much you hate Marwan.

So, let's all play nicely.

It's simple. We kill Mario.

Bloody hell, Mintball is back. She's like RLFANS royalty.

A good start would be to crack down on the people who have more than one account registered to an IP address, there are certain individuals who some crazy things and find mysteriously the same person backing them up.

Just a suggestion.

I concur Bravo...

Noted. I'll ask the techy guys.

If Minty was like Royalty, she's have to rebel against herself and we'd be back to anarchy.

It's sad what's happened to this board over the past few years but I think it just mirrors many other forms of Social Media tbh. Now I've never been a regular poster on here but I always enjoyed reading the views of far more knowledgeable rugby fans than myself...... and although there were often disagreements it was generally good natured debate and people would agree to disagree and move on. Now it just seems like a certain minority (as is the case on most RL Fans forums) who take great pleasure im antagonising people for their own pleasure. You only have to look at the VT to see every thread derailed by a Hull FC-Hull KR b1tchfest! Remember 20 years ago when discussing rugby in the pub you just ignored the local village idiot (or slapped him!

)who annoyed you? Not so easily done with Social Media and it says a lot about the world we live in when the likes of Joey Barton, Kim Kardashian, Katie Price etc are followed by millions on Twitter, Instagram etc etc.

How we resolve this, god only knows but as fans we all need to take responsibility for not letting this board die. 99% of people on here are more than likely adults so can we all please start acting like one?! (and yes I include myself in that and will try my damnedest not to be wound up by the numpties!!!)

At the end of the day the "Clique'' has retreated because of Me and Mario that's how childish and pathetic it really is, this Forum has been ruined by a "clique'' if you ask me and many ex-posters. They have all now retreated to form their own ''Cliquey'' forum where debating the Negative is outlawed, therefore, their one-sided views, aren't really classed as debating. A Forum is supposed to accommodate all views of discussion without causing any prejudicial vitriolic abuse towards a single party. Reading their Tweets was absolutely the most embarrassing piece of Childsplay I've ever witnessed coming from supposedly fully grown Adults where they blame myself and Mario for bringing down this very Forum. Now this Forum before I ever joined was in no better state, I have friends family and acquaintances who have come and gone from these boards who have refrained from dialogue due to the ''Cliquey'' goings on. It reminds me of a Primary school playground where Michigan Red flies around the yard whispering in people's ears "Don't post if "Flat Stan'' or ''Mario'' posts, this is what's actually going on. So I'm glad the "Clique'' has decided to retreat with their Ad Hominem vitriolic nonsense, Typical Bullies left with their tails between their legs. They hated their views being challenged just alike your typical bully. I ain't going nowhere, posters will and still visit these boards there's no comparison.

So at this point I'll say ''Bye, Bye to the Clique'', Your Forum isn't a real Forum, it only accommodates one dimensional Zombie's. Now this Forum is a proper Forum where the Anti, Pro, positive, and Negative is permitted hence your migration to 'Deviltalk'

Has someone had a bet with you to see how many times you can use the word "clique" in a post?
I'm certainly not a member of any clique but I hardly ever read this forum any more due to the utterly boring and predictable posts from yourself and Mario. Geddit?

That's a shame . And it's also a shame that I can't ever seem to remember anything interesting or insightful what you've written or contributed to any particular thread. Your Avatar suits your literacy.

There's no clique. When 'Clique' is mentioned on here it is either always used by fairly recent joiners to describe anyone who was already here, or used as a weak defense when idiocy gets called out.

There's normal people who can have a discussion without taking offence because someone has a different view. Then there's others who can't discuss an alternate opinion without condescending and belittling. If people get so offended by the prospect of somebody having a different view on RL, and can't be civil, then they should really question their ability to interact as an adult.

Multiple accounts need to go if it can be done. Far too many individuals propping-up their own arguments.

RLFans has been going downhill for quite a while, even before the most recent nobbers appeared. Less and less posters. More and more idiocy.

Poor moderation. Probably due to the fact that most of our mods had already drifted away from the boards already rather than deliberately ignoring stuff. Poor or no moderation just perpetuates the problems and consequently makes them worse.

This forum is pretty much dead, and don't see it changing any time soon as most posters can't be bothered with the idiot(s).

With all due respect Stanley, a large majority of RLFANS members which you have just branded as "one dimensional Zombie's" have moved over to the DevilTalk forum. In fact, the new Forum has encouraged a lot of 'lurkers' to actually join in with the discussions ,which is really pleasing to see.

The migration was a necessary evil, and as far as I'm aware people are enjoying the new forum. It encourages debate but in an intelligent, considered manner that doesn't intend to antagonise or upset other members.

We are all old enough to debate an opinion without it having to descend into farce, which is sadly something that has become the norm in threads you have previously commented on, on this forum.

Hahaha wrong its not dead theres over 130 people viewing this forum as I write this post. Now that's not dead it's just lying dormant, now looking over at your forum now that looks dead to me. 5 viewing.

Here comes the cavalry, your views are biased I get Ad Hominem and antagonized. You just backslap with vested interest. Looking at your forum postings, there're only about four consistent posters.

One look at this thread is all you need to know about the state of RLFans at this moment in time.

There's only one problem on this forum and it's your pathetic antagonizing boredom obsession with me.

Yeah that'll be it, Stan.

Obnoxious, reality denying conspiracy theorists with chronic Dunning-Kruger syndrome and a penchant for living in a fantasy world really float my boat.

There's the problem Ad Hominem. Cognitive Dissonance is flexing that vex.

DevilTalk was never created with a hidden agenda of creating a popularity contest between RLFANS and itself. In fact, I'd like it if people who are members of both Forums continued to use both. At the end of the day, we're all big Salford RLFC fans and want to get our daily fix of gossip and rugby-related news. Where you get that fix from is up to you, but from what I'm hearing a lot of people are enjoying the new website.

Also, to make a comparison between how many 'hits' each website is currently getting is absurd. One has been established for well over a decade, while the other has been around merely a month, if that. I don't think the popularity of a Forum ultimately determines which one is better; it is down to the content and contribution of it's respective members.

On a personal note I'm not backslapping anyone, but when a fellow member makes a good point of course I'll back them up wholeheartedly.

I genuinely hope this forum gets back on track, but my gut feeling is that a lot of members have become disillusioned and it will take a bit of effort to bring them back here.

What would you know. You've only been on this forum two minutes and you're acting like the pied piper private messaging everybody poaching posters away from here.

First point: Incorrect Stan. I have been a member here for almost 3 years longer than you have.

Second point: I've only ever approached one member to join DevilTalk. This isn't a conspiracy theory!

Third point: I rest my case.

You maybe want to heed your own advice there Mr Angry.

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