Do wonder if Theo is regretting his move to Saints, apart from his friendship with Long couldn't see the sense in it at the time and even less now.

That said though don't see how he would have forced his way into the 17 for us this season either.

that sums it up, however with saints injuries, you have to wonder why he hasn't played much? Cunningham clearly isn't happy with something.

Thanks a bunch we got rid. I'm not surprised he's not getting in, he ain't good enough period, by far the most [uover-rated [/uplayer to come through our ranks in my opinion, i couldn't believe Saints decided to buy him, however there's been raised eyebrows with Saints's recruitment this year with Fages and Owens, Tasi doesn't seem to be the same player however he''ll probably come good at some point he was solid for us.

Please explain in what way Theo Fages was overrated.
Can you deny that he was skilful,brave,supremely fit,willing to learn from others,a team man,and up till the final couple of months,proud to play for our club.
Just saying you didn't rate him would suffice!

I have to agree with Flat Stanley on this. I thought he was overrated by a lot of our fans. You cant say he was proud to play for our club especially when he refuses to play for us when we needed to do well in the middle 8's. He would only do one good play during the game then he will hide. His kicking was awful. I dont miss him

Was thinking just the same about Theo last night. Despite the issues at Salford last season it felt like the wrong move for him and that his agent and Long coach had turned his head in their interests rather than his. Classic case of bad advice to a young player

I actually think he would have suited our style of play well this year. With Lee, Dobbo and GOB controlling the play it would have taken the pressure of unlike last year was he was either with Chase or the only recognised half who was fit/not suspended for significant chunks. He isn't a half who will control a game, he's more of a running half. He could have developed well rather than sitting on the side lines watching Saints. He's not better than anyone we have here but he could have done a similar job to Lui I think.

That said he's got the right attitude to succeed at Saints if he gets the chance. He's a hard worker who's willing to learn and a good team player. It's early days yet.

he was also under rated by a lot of our fans. His kicking game needed to improve but we've had far worse kickers at the club. He wasn't noticeably worse than seasoned pros Chase and Smith for instance. Myler? Ratchford? Holdsworth? All decent kickers but were consistently a lot better than Fages

For some reason last year it seemed most fans felt they had to choose a side and Theo had to be the worst player ever or the clubs saviour. Truth is he was a promising young player who had really good moments and not so good moments like most young players. He was consistently above average in my opinion which is good for one of our academy products. He came into the team as it was imploding off the pitch and with a group of big headed 'stars' who thought they were good enough to just turn up and win. Or didn't seem to care if they won or not at times. That's a difficult position for a young half back and he coped with it pretty well

Gutted at the way he ended his time with us but not as bad as some and I think he was badly advised

Sorry but his skilful attribute you refer Fages too evades me. ( Care to elaborate his skill factors) because the fundamental ball playing creativity what i witnessed was poor. You refer to his braveness ( yes he was brave, i'm not disputing ) stamina ( yes he has stamina i'm not disputing ), willingness to learn ( he was keen, i'm not disputing) a team man who was proud ( I'm not disputing ). Well if thats your definition of a model professional Rugby League player being Brave, fit, willingness to learn, a team man, who is proud you're describing 99% of most sportsman forget Rugby League.

Creativity is an half back's bread and butter. Fages struggled to create tries or gaps for runners on the burst. He dummied far to much, he never broke tackles, hardly beat a man, average sidestep, poor reading of a game, game leadership was poor, kicking game was atrocious. However he was good at backing up..So your basis of attributes that refers to Fages are quite simply ten a penny. Sorry.

The fact is that he was overrated by the fans who liked him,and underrated by those who didn't.
I see a decent player who could develop massively, but one whose career could stall. He's at that age,really.
It's odd that he's not being played by Cunningham.
Otherwise, we'll know in the next couple of seasons just how well he develops.
My guess,for what it's worth,is that he won't make it big at a top 6 club,but I'm just as likely to be wrong !

I think Theo has the ability to be a very good HB. He is certainly not the finished article by a long shot, and he appears to be sinking into obscurity at Saints at the moment, which will do him no good. A lot of people seem to pick him apart on these boards, both his good and bad attributes. He's still very young with a lot to learn, and I think a really good coach could really bring him on leaps and bounds. He's not getting that and it will only hinder him in the long run. I didn't think he was the best thing since sliced bread or the worst HB I've ever seen either. We've not missed him in the same way that we've not missed Chase, so wont lose any sleep.

Give me an academy player over and import any day of the week. I like Theo and was proud he was an academy lad who was good enough for SL.
Was he all that? Nah not really, he had skills and bravery but lacked the one thing that makes a really good creative half back, pace. This can be offset by a good kicking game (Dobbo) but Theos kicking was average.

I would rather he had stayed, same as Sneyd. But I am more than happy now

LOL at Flat Stanley, in one comment instantly became public enemy number one of the forum. One foul comment about Wilkinson and I fear for you safety around games.

Made my night this has. It's the small things....

Slight exaggeration. I think nearly everyone has just given their view on things and most seem pretty fair to me, including Stan's. You're creating mischief where there isn't any...

My guess is Cunningham is not happy with himself for listening to Long in the first place.

No mischief here, just curious to whom Flat Stanley could be under a different alias ? Dantes Inferno, ProgrammeThrower, Lance Todd. Forum was a lot more thought provoking when those characters roamed the threads.

You have to think if Theo was that good Catalan would have at some time made a serious play to take him 'home'.

Salford should be proud of Theo. He came through our academy and was thrust ( maybe too soon) into game politics, when numerous players and agents decided SRD were an open goal for legal action. He like most others were badly advised and it leaves a bitter taste that they tried to do it when they were needed most ( and had most leverage). They have moved on , so have we; I guess more of them ( players) regret it than the club or fans do!

Theo's family are associated with Pia in Perpignan,whereas Dragons Catalans are St Esteve/X111 Catalans.......... Bit like City and United,ne'er the twain shall meet

Hahahaha Lovely threatening behaviour, Someone's obviously been on the Stella. Some poor old wife would of copped for a beating last night. Hahahaha Wilky who's that now, is he that bloke who is barred from the stadium and got refused a presidential role because of his swindling attributes.: Oh yeah i know who you mean... How Embatrassing

Didn't we have another French lad called Etienne Ferret, is he still with us??

He was released,and I think he plays for Lezignan in France Elite 1

Some things are lost over the Internet.... Threatening behaviour? Been on the Stella? I'm on your side young squire that's why it amused me. Always said myself Theo will be an average half and also have my issues with Wilkinson. It the people in this forum mate, one also negative comment about either and your pounced upon.

For future reference my tipple of choice is Alpine formally know as Ayingerbrau, can be found in the Sam Smiths public house in Eccles.

Alpine, is that the same as Stella light....Threatening Behaviour

As against full Stella...Wife beater

Sorry fella i totally misread and misunderstood your post. Whoops i am human afterall

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