To dispel many beliefs on here that the RFL and their disciplinary committee have it in for Salford (Marwan Koukash) I thought it would be interesting to compile a list of cumulative match bans by club.

Here are the results for the year so far that I've taken from periodic news articles on the the RFL website. Please feel free to correct me if I missed any.

Salford - 27

Catalan - 11

Hull KR - 5

Castleford - 4

St Helens - 4

Wigan - 3

Wakefield - 2

Widnes - 2

Huddersfield - 1

Hull - 1

Warrington - 0

Leeds - 0


Cue the Salford need to clean up their act posts.

Interesting.

Having watched plenty of SL games this year on Sky/Highlights as well as our own matches of course, it seems pretty baffling that other teams are getting so few. There's no doubt that some of our bans are justified but not to the tune that these stats show. We play aggressively in defense and a few bans are to be expected, but we seem to cop maximum penalties for indiscretions where as other teams are simply not getting the same punishment. I expect fans of other clubs to view things differently, but it's not difficult to see why Salford fans start to think that we're being punished for indiscretions off the field on top of everything else.

While correlation doesnt prove causation, a graph of our bans vs our owner's outbursts against the RFL management might prove interesting?

I think we've warranted some of the bans but what i don't get is how have Wigan only got 3 games between them. And Leeds & Warrington 0 something fishy going on in the RFL!

did westwood not get a ban for that high tackle v us 1st game???!!

No it was ruled Sin Bin sufficient.

As much as I agree that some offences were punishable the question is are the RFL showing more leniency towards other clubs? I just find it really bizarre that we have copped 5 more games than 10 other SL clubs combined and 45% of all SL match bans. It's got the point where you ask yourself which Salford player(s) will be cited next week.

to add to the debate: www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/32 ... discipline

to add to the debate: www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/32 ... discipline

Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"to add to the debate: www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/32 ... discipline'" Wise move by Watson to say what the RFL want to hear rather than publicly criticising them. I personally think the RFL have put out this news purposely because even they must be embarrassed by the imbalance of the numbers.

Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"to add to the debate: www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/32 ... discipline'" Wise move by Watson to say what the RFL want to hear rather than publicly criticising them. I personally think the RFL have put out this news purposely because even they must be embarrassed by the imbalance of the numbers.

Let's hope that permeates upwards!!

Maybe we could get the FBI to investigate the RFL next

Yes and we could nominate Sepp Blatter to replace big Nigel. He'd probably be more popular

I've already claimed on another thread that there is a witch hunt going on against Salford. All this does is confirm it. There is no way that Salford are any worse than any other team.

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I had it at 25 cumulative match bans in April , I get it to 28 Matches , as I've included Adam Walne's 1 match ban in the Dewsbury Friendly.

Salford have been Cited & players charged on 58 occasions this season ,42 resulting in no-charge and 16 resulting in Bans only 2 occasions resulting in no further action .

Warrington have had players cited 19 times ,only 1 leading to an charge that was found not guilty.

the issue is whether Salford are truly that vicious or the level of additional scrutiny is colouring the level of referrals

Not entirely convinced there is anything suspicious in this, but I've always felt we get treated badly by the video referee. I generally expect any decision that gets sent up of ours to be turned down.

I think Salford as a club should build up a collection of all the incidents where the Salford players have been banned then build up a collection of similar incidents where other clubs players have not. Then send it to the Rugby league and let them explain the difference.
We as fans see examples every week of bad, dangerous or dirty tackles from other clubs players and nothing is done, whereas if it was a Salford player we know it would result in a ban!
I think the Rugby League have set out to teach Marwan a lesson and I think together with the blinkered refereeing has decided the result of quite a few games this year.
Injuries certainly haven't helped but with a fair crack of the whip from our "officials" we would have had more points on the board.
On a positive note, the players have continued to give their all in challenging circumstances.

Bump.

People seriously feel the is a witch hunt against salford regarding being sent off ? Come on, salfords discipline is shocking. Anybody with brains and eyes can see that. Harris keeps banging on about it also.

However, I felt for griffin yesterday. My brain tells me that was a red but my heart says he should have gone to the bin for 10 mins. Child should have shown some heart Imo in which was a tough week for him.

If your players weren't vicious thugs then maybe you wouldn't have so many bans..........
Are you leigh in disguise?????

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Having watched every Salford game this season I may have seen a few more incidents that yourself. Are you inferring that Salford deserve 50% of all the bans this season?
If Griffins sending off yesterday was correct then we should have had at least 2 or three every game this year.
It certainly depends on which team you play for!
With regards Harris's stance, what's he supposed to say, he has to toe the official line. I'll bet privately he hasn't got the same opinion.

St pete - You have issues with Salford and Marwan particular as is blatantly obvious by you constant rants on the VT about him. Let it lie. There are plenty of Saints players past and present I can't stand but I don't feel the need to troll other boards and tell all and sundry about it.

As for the Griffin incident it was a yellow at worst but Child is a grade A pr1ck so absolutely no surprise he flashed the red. I don't want to keep harping back to the Westwood incident back in the first game but like it or not we are being treated completely differently from other clubs. Yes we let ourselves down at times and a lot of those bans have been deserved but the length of some of the suspensions is laughable. I bet if you compare those bans against historical records we're probably the dirtiest team in the SL era!

Oh and don't get me started on the stats for Wigan, Wire and Leeds....

I also agree that Griffins red card was a little harsh, 10 mins sufficient IMO. I think when its reviewed it should come back as 'sending off sufficient, no ban'. Childs should have shown a little compassion there. However, I think Josh Griffin will do well to escape a Grade B punching charge as it was clear to see him throw a punch at Phelps on the deck. It will be interesting to see whether Isa gets cited for reigniting things after it had calmed down, he made a beeline straight for Josh and went right up into his face.

But Westwood had the World Club Challenge the week after so the RL took his "Previous Good Conduct" into account!

Because let's face it he's a misunderstood soul with no previous who plays for a Top 4 Club

I hardly post on VT mate.

I'm open, I don't like koukash, I think he's a idiot who jumped in at the deep end and made lots of mistakes. He thinks money is the answer to everything but lately I think he's seen the light and realised that you can't throw a bunch of individuals and expect to be a team.

The fact I don't like Koukash doesn't make my opinion that your discipline is shocking.

Well if it's not the VT it must be the Stains board I've read you constantly bleating like a spoilt schoolgirl. You're obsessed. Oh and seeing as you're an expert on discipline would you like to.explain the difference between the late high shot just before half time in the Hudds-Catalans game and Griffin's yesterday? Looked every bit as bad from where km sat yet replayed once in the ground and nothing done.

Oh and if anyone else saw it please feel free to comment. I'm happy to be put straight if I'm wrong on this one.

Are you on about the Murphy-Tonga incident?