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Me and my yuppie partner are looking for a place of our own within a couple of miles of town. What is it like living in either Weaste, Seedley or Langworthy these days? I know it's somewhat different to the days of high crime and poverty, but how different? Good bits, bad bits (no rugby ground down the road)?
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| Are you buying or renting? I live opposite Ladywell tram stop in the Canterbury Gardens flats and it's ok there tbh. Pretty quiet and never have any trouble. It's my mates flat but it's a 3 bed and it's a good size. 50 yards to the tram stop and 400 yards to the nearest Wetherspoons! Morrison's and Aldi both within 5 minute walk and a new Sainsburys local if you're a bit of a p0nce!  I don't tend to venture to Weaste, Seedley or Langworthy much these days since we left The Willows but there are worse areas in Salford to live IMO! There are a few new apartment blocks dotted along Eccles New Road if you like to live in a box but if you like space it wouldn't hurt you to look at the older blocks.
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Oh and really good public transport links to town & the Trafford Centre..... buses, trams and train. Easy access to The Quays and 15 minute walk down into Monton (posh bars) or plenty of Holts' pubs in Eccles if you like drinking with old codgers!
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"Oh and really good public transport links to town & the Trafford Centre..... buses, trams and train. Easy access to The Quays and 15 minute walk down into Monton (posh bars) or plenty of Holts' pubs in Eccles if you like drinking with old codgers!'"
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| Quote ="Chico"15 minutes? Christ, Gebrselassie couldn’t run there that quick!'"
Ok maybe 20... with a following wind! |
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You could do worse than look at Monton/Ellesmere Park, as said above lots of nice new bars (and a few more in the offing), cracking restaurants, the odd coffee shop, mini Tesco and a nice deli or two. Bit of a smaller version of Chorlton and not a massive schlep to get a tram into town.
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SaleSlim - Above an beyond there bud. We're looking at buying (with a view to selling it on for the same value when we emigrate to Aus' in approx' 18 months) a 1 or 2 bedroom flat with somewhere to park a car and needs to accommodate my beloved road bike. Our budget is about £85k. We're not particularly fussed about space as I don't like hoovering. We did spot a small flat in the old Weaste bus station but it was taken off the market.
MR - Thanks for that. Yeah, we had a quick look at Monton/Ellesmere but thought it'd be too expensive for us. I don't suppose you know differently?
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If you’re looking at selling in 18 months why not just rent rather than go through the expense of solicitors fees when buying and selling as well as estate agent fees? It will definitely cost you more.
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MR - Thanks for that. Yeah, we had a quick look at Monton/Ellesmere but thought it'd be too expensive for us. I don't suppose you know differently?'"
Don't know much about buying but I do know you can rent some really nice places, I have a fair sized apartment right in the middle of Worsley for £500pcm and you can get similar ones in Monton/Ellesmere Park for the same sort of money. A friend lived in Dukes Court (off Wellington Rd) and that was the same sort of money, quite big and you can walk to the train and tram station within 10 minutes. |
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JGR - Good suggestion. However, as we have a decent amount to put into purchasing a property, the monthly mortgage bill will be approximately 25% less than renting. We also estimate a slight increase in value of the property over the next 18 months due to the increasing popularity of the area. It's a risk but a calculated one. We could also rent out the property (below the going rate as we're not brazen capitalists) when we emigrate. Indeed, when we emigrate we'll be renting (tbh, £85k is worth nothing when buying in Sydney).
MR - I'm surprised at that. I estimated approx £750 pcm around there. However, £500 pcm is still more than we'd be paying for a mortgage.
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Monton is alright if you like to pretend you're part of the jet set. Up it's own backside these days (the opening of a champagne bar says it all) however the Malt Dog and the good old Park Hotel are fine drinking establishments.
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If you’re looking at saving 25% per month on a mortgage compared to rent, you’ll still be paying more through buying. Say rent pcm on a property is £500, knock off the 25% you’ll save through a mortgage and you’re looking at £375 per month. Multiply that saving over 18 months and you’re looking at a circa £2250 saving.
However, solicitors fees when buying and selling will total £1600 and estate agent fees £1500, so you’ll still be £1000 worse off through buying than renting.
Obviously if your intention is to rent the property out once you emigrate that changes slightly, but if you’re going to sell in 18 months unless you prepared to buy a property that requires some renovation you’ll be lucky to make much, if anything over the next 18 months.
PS - you'll also be lucky to get anything in Monton other than a one-bedroom apartment for £500 thesedays.
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Slightly further out of your preferred area is Blackburn.... I personally know a chap who is looking to sell a 2 bed semi with offroad parking for 2 vehicles, back garden boundary is a large drop into the leeds/Liverpool canal.
5 minutes walk from train station, direct trains to Victoria..
Valued at £82.5K, would sell £74K(ish)
Would get your money back easy or rent at £450 - £475 pcm
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| It's a fair few miles but more than two decades behind |
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Watch it MR or I'll hit you so hard into the future that when you come to, it'll be the year 2006!!!!!! lol |
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| Quote ="PaulCam1972"Watch it MR or I'll hit you so hard into the future that when you come to, it'll be the year 2006!!!!!! lol'"
Nout wrong with that, we'd be in the play offs again! |
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Quote ="PaulCam1972"Slightly further out of your preferred area is Blackburn.... I personally know a chap who is looking to sell a 2 bed semi with offroad parking for 2 vehicles, back garden boundary is a large drop into the leeds/Liverpool canal.
5 minutes walk from train station, direct trains to Victoria..
Valued at £82.5K, would sell £74K(ish)
Would get your money back easy or rent at £450 - £475 p.m'"
Not too long back you could buy a whole street in Accrington/Oswaldtwistle etc for £80k! 
RP - If you're looking at buying and with around £85k I reckon Eccles/Peel Green or Irlams o' th' Height are decent bets and you should be able to get a half decent 2 bed terrace in either of those areas for that sort of money (The Height might just be slightly higher tho). Plenty of storage for the bike then as well in the spare room and you won't have to ar$e about lugging it up 3 flights of stairs in an apartment block (as I do!). Good transport links for both areas too. The bonus of Eccles/Peel Green is walking distance to home matches!
Anyway, I'm sure you've had a look at Rightmove but here's what you get for under £90k in each area....
Peel Green - www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... PerPage=50
The Height/Eccles Old Road - www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... nel=buying
The Harvard Grove apartments on the 2nd link are decent (top of Weaste Lane opposite Buile Hill Park) and would be a prime renter if you decide to keep hold and let out with Salford Royal being just down the road.
Anyway, there's my two penneth. Having been an (don't  me!) Estate Agent a few years ago I still get a little carried away when drawn into a discussion about property! |
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Quote ="PaulCam1972"Slightly further out of your preferred area is Blackburn.... I personally know a chap who is looking to sell a 2 bed semi with offroad parking for 2 vehicles, back garden boundary is a large drop into the leeds/Liverpool canal.
5 minutes walk from train station, direct trains to Victoria..
Valued at £82.5K, would sell £74K(ish)
Would get your money back easy or rent at £450 - £475 p.m'"
Not too long back you could buy a whole street in Accrington/Oswaldtwistle etc for £80k!
RP - If you're looking at buying and with around £85k I reckon Eccles/Peel Green or Irlams o' th' Height are decent bets and you should be able to get a half decent 2 bed terrace in either of those areas for that sort of money (The Height might just be slightly higher tho). Plenty of storage for the bike then as well in the spare room and you won't have to ar$e about lugging it up 3 flights of stairs in an apartment block (as I do!). Good transport links for both areas too. The bonus of Eccles/Peel Green is walking distance to home matches!
Anyway, I'm sure you've had a look at Rightmove but here's what you get for under £90k in each area....
Peel Green - www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... PerPage=50
The Height/Eccles Old Road - www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... nel=buying
The Harvard Grove apartments on the 2nd link are decent (top of Weaste Lane opposite Buile Hill Park) and would be a prime renter if you decide to keep hold and let out with Salford Royal being just down the road.
Anyway, there's my two penneth. Having been an (don't me!) Estate Agent a few years ago I still get a little carried away when drawn into a discussion about property! | |
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| Solly - How things change 'ey!
JGR - Most informative, thanks. Like you say, as we're looking at renting it out we could be OK. All very useful information though.
PC1972 - Thanks for this. Sounds like a great deal but we currently live in Ashton U L and are looking to move closer to town so it's not really suitable. Thanks nonetheless.
SS - Above and beyond again, thanks. From your responses I could tell you worked in the field.
It seems our target budget might be fractionally ambitious for the areas we're aiming for. Feel free to offer other nuggets of info though!
Just to bring it back a bit, can anyone tell me what life is like in Weaste, Seedley or Langworthy these days? Surely someone lives there or has London taken over courtesy of Media City? |
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Blackburn must be a magnet: you can get to it from Manchester Victotia by train using either of two different routes! One (the new route) even passes through Rochdale and Burnley.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Blackburn must be a magnet: you can get to it from Manchester Victotia by train using either of two different routes! One (the new route) even passes through Rochdale and Burnley.'"
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Just to bring it back a bit, can anyone tell me what life is like in Weaste, Seedley or Langworthy these days? Surely someone lives there or has London taken over courtesy of Media City?
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Well the area is as quiet and less troublesome as I can ever remember it. So that is one thing. The top end, Buile Hill Park etc., and Salford Quays is good for a stroll or jogging.
The only mither is that there isn’t much about in regards to services. You can get by for pubs, eating out, the odd bits and pieces of shopping. However, by and large, you’ll be travelling out, either to Salford Precinct, Eccles, Quays and further afield to do stuff or get stuff done.
Decent for commuting, although buses are limited at the bottom end and the tram trawling through the Quays might do your nut in after a while. The 10 (bottom end) & 67 (top end) buses run until gone 11, so you’ll be fine getting home from Salford matches. |
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"It's about to become the new "jewel in the crown" of Lancashire...mark my words"
But it is no longer IN Lancashire!
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I don't tend to venture to Weaste, Seedley or Langworthy much these days since we left The Willows but there are worse areas in Salford to live IMO! There are a few new apartment blocks dotted along Eccles New Road if you like to live in a box 
me!) Estate Agent a few years ago I still get a little carried away when drawn into a discussion about property! 
