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| So looks like 2 games in and hock is going to get another ban. How many more chances?????
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| In all the hub bub after Thursday I forgot what did he actually do?
I wonder what Sheens take on Hock will be?
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| Quote ="Michigan red"In all the hub bub after Thursday I forgot what did he actually do?
I wonder what Sheens take on Hock will be?'"
He rubbed his knee in the face of a Saints player, got warned about it, and did it again not 10 minutes later. Tbh both were fairly innocuous but the fact it happened twice, coupled with his previous record, will undoubtedly get him a ban of some kind,
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| He's talented, but for all his talent he is flawed.
Think the Doc likes him, we'll see if that loyalty is misplaced.
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| Gareth has buried himself a deeper hole with some comments made on Twiiter this afternoon. Tweets containing homophobic abuse.
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| the first knee indecent, rightfully reprimanded for and I cannot defend in any way shape or form,
The second (for me) was hit or miss, I think the intention was to stand up and unfortunate placing as the replays showed no downward force unlike exhibit A.
That being said he had just been given a warning and I cannot have any complaint with the decision. The Big lad Mossie took a crackin dive in that exchange from the initial forearm to the face, that actually connected to the chest.
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| Quote ="RatedRKO"Gareth has buried himself a deeper hole with some comments made on Twiiter this afternoon. Tweets containing homophobic abuse.'"
His Twitter account had been hacked... let's face it, he can't even spell the words posted!!!!
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| So i notice westwood is there again. No ban though. How did carney get away with his. Where is the consistency??
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| The 2nd incident highlighted a new trend in TV games. Players now stay down with even the smallest injury waiting for sky to show a few replays on the screen, in the hope of a penalty being awarded.
Nothing was made of the Hock incident until about the 5th replay on the screen, when the touch judge suddenly decided to tell the ref what he had just watched.
To be fair it was probably justified in this instance but there have been some shockers in the other games.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"The 2nd incident highlighted a new trend in TV games. Players now stay down with even the smallest injury waiting for sky to show a few replays on the screen, in the hope of a penalty being awarded.
Nothing was made of the Hock incident until about the 5th replay on the screen, when the touch judge suddenly decided to tell the ref what he had just watched.
To be fair it was probably justified in this instance but there have been some shockers in the other games.'"
One of the less beneficial things that has arrived from the NRL.
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| I think he's more trouble than he's worth to be honest. Get rid
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| I'll give him till the end of the season if no improvement time to cut our losses. If the RFL gets onto his homophobic comments with the 2 incidents he could be looking at a 8 game minimum
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| The biggest problem with Hock is that he cannot be trusted to play a full 80 minutes without giving away a number of stupid, preventable penalties. Its a shame really because he's a real talent, but you have to question whether he's worth keeping considering the amount of baggage that he brings with him.
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| Quote ="bandgeekmafia78"The biggest problem with Hock is that he cannot be trusted to play a full 80 minutes without giving away a number of stupid, preventable penalties. Its a shame really because he's a real talent, but you have to question whether he's worth keeping considering the amount of baggage that he brings with him.'"
I agree he will be in the top 3/4 earners at the club as well this could be used to get 2 players for me. i would love a Danny Kirmond or someone like that who plays with his heart. But obviously he loves it at Wakefield and you can't fault him for that. We need more players like him in our game.
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| Elliot Whitehead would be my choice. Although granted, he doesn't solve our defensive problems.
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| I'd like to see us from now on play
11. Paterson - for me he is a back rower got a great off load and has an understanding with Dobson
12. Hauraki - An absolute grafter and his defence is top notch
13. Hansen - For me Hansen is just a tackling machine doesn't really break the line anymore but can tackle all day needs to more vocal though as a leader if were up against it
Hock when back should come off the bench sorry but we need to move forward without him
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| The general consensus on here after his break for the exit last year was that we should try and keep him. Two games in and he's already up for a ban for nothing more than being his usual moronic self. Get rid. Paterson to partner with Dobson and Hauraki with Chase.
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| I just get the feeling that Hauraki and HH are to similar, in the back row you need a grafter, an off loader and a line breaker.
If you get them all in one player even better.
Hock for me needs telling any moor foolishness this season and you can start looking elsewhere again, I keep saying it brilliant but very flawed.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"I just get the feeling that Hauraki and HH are to similar, in the back row you need a grafter, an off loader and a line breaker.
If you get them all in one player even better.
Hock for me needs telling any moor foolishness this season and you can start looking elsewhere again, I keep saying it brilliant but very flawed.'"
Yes that's why i feel Paterson & Hauraki in the back row with Hansen at loose. I've never understood why Hansen has never played in the loose forward position anyhow
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| Frustrating thing is that we could all see that Hock was starting to get frustrated and annoyed when he was giving penalties away. Only person who couldnt see it was Iestyn Harris who should've substituted him. Poor coaching.
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| Anyone seen the logic in him playing at prop yet? I thought it might work, unconvinced after the Saints game. If anything it means he just gets himself embroiled in even more aggro. Seems odd to shift a backrower into prop when you've got Tony Puletua, Carl Forster and Luke Menzies (all props) waiting in the wings for a place.
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| The guy is a complete buffoon, when he got banned for the cocaine i was ecstatic, no more Hock at Wigan, then they stupidly gave him a big shinny new contract, i was infuriated, i stated straight away he would be nothing but trouble and be a disrupted force within the team, it wasn't long before i was right, the day he finally left Wigan i was that happy i had a little party for myself with cup cakes, fizzy lemonade and salmon sarnies, it is a shame that Koukash thought he would be a big crowd pleaser and brought him to your club when he could have used the money better elsewhere, get rid and let him finish his career at Doncaster
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"The guy is a complete buffoon, when he got banned for the cocaine i was ecstatic, no more Hock at Wigan, then they stupidly gave him a big shinny new contract'"
You didn't want him given a leg up?
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| Quote ="stouffer"You didn't want him given a leg up?'"
I think this is far too clever for me, I just don't get the pun.
Hock baiting seems to have moved from the field of play to twitter now, it is great watching from the outside, as it's like a random generator as to what he will do next.
Great entertainment factor, but only if he's not in your side.
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