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| Considering Smith's disappointing form would you drop him for today's game at Leeds or stick by him in the hope he improves?
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| Yes drop him he has been garbage so far!
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| Don't get me wrong as I haven't been impressed either but why single out one player when there are several who you could ask the same question about? Tim smith = the new Luke Dorn
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| Quote ="redmanc"Don't get me wrong as I haven't been impressed either but why single out one player when there are several who you could ask the same question about? Tim smith = the new Luke Dorn'"
Even better that we've chosen to make this year's scapegoat to be a man who suffers from bi-polar disorder and who in 2008 had to take an extended break from the game. A break that was attributed to him struggling to cope with criticism that was constantly levelled at him.
Given this, the negative chants aimed at him and booing of him will surely serve to give him the kick up the backside he needs.
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| Quote ="Yorkshire_Red"Even better that we've chosen to make this year's scapegoat to be a man who suffers from bi-polar disorder and who in 2008 had to take an extended break from the game. A break that was attributed to him struggling to cope with criticism that was constantly levelled at him.
Given this, the negative chants aimed at him and booing of him will surely serve to give him the kick up the backside he needs.'"
He was a big name signing we paid a big transfer fee for and with that comes certain expectations. I sympathise with his medical condition but I don't think that should make a player immune from opinion or judgement. I judge him solely as a Salford player wearing a Salford jersey and nothing more. And for the record also don't condone any verbal abuse towards any player.
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| His previous medical conditions should have no bearing on fans discussing his performance on a supporters message board, chants and boos are a disgrace though.
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| Sold by a club he was settled playing for to settle cash flow issues,
Keeping a academy favourite out of the team.
Last seasons half back pulling up tree's at his DR club
The coach who signed him and who originally brought across from Aus no longer in charge...
I just cannot fathom why he's not settled and playing his best game....
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| Quote ="middleman"Sold by a club he was settled playing for to settle cash flow issues,
Keeping a academy favourite out of the team.
Last seasons half back pulling up tree's at his DR club
The coach who signed him and who originally brought across from Aus no longer in charge...
I just cannot fathom why he's not settled and playing his best game....'"
Keep finding those excuses Middleman if it makes life more bearable for you as a long suffering Salford supporter.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Keep finding those excuses Middleman if it makes life more bearable for you as a long suffering Salford supporter.
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He does have a point though.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"He does have a point though.'"
So Smith was on fire then before Noble left 2 weeks ago was he? Fages is irrelevant the kid has been switched to interchange hooker under Noble and left out under Harris so he's not been threatening Smiths place in the team.
Please remember that Smith is a senior professional and top quality players overcome issues when the take the field. As for being settled at Wakefield, I don't he was too bothered about that last year when he was signing a bigger contract. Also why would he be unsettled under Harris, surely by being selected in both games so far shows the coach has confidence in him.
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| a very good point. give him at least half a season before you hang him =/
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| I think this poll demonstrates an unfortunate problem with an "open" forum. It is all well & good to express an opinion but when that opinion attempts to remove a player from the team then it is wrong.
Tim Smith is a good player.
He has not performed at the level expected of him.
Tim Smith will know that more than anyone.
A lack of confidence affects performance.
Criticism in a poll with undermine confidence.
It will be harder for Tim Smith to perform at the level expected.
A coach is employed to pick the team - let him do it.
Perhaps a factor in all of this is Theo Fages, the fans favourite, who is not getting game time because of Tim Smith. Theo will get better but is currently Tim Smith, confidence permitting, is the best bet.
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| Quote ="Beck2"I think this poll demonstrates an unfortunate problem with an "open" forum. It is all well & good to express an opinion but when that opinion attempts to remove a player from the team then it is wrong.
Tim Smith is a good player.
He has not performed at the level expected of him.
Tim Smith will know that more than anyone.
A lack of confidence affects performance.
Criticism in a poll with undermine confidence.
It will be harder for Tim Smith to perform at the level expected.
A coach is employed to pick the team - let him do it.
Perhaps a factor in all of this is Theo Fages, the fans favourite, who is not getting game time because of Tim Smith. Theo will get better but is currently Tim Smith, confidence permitting, is the best bet.'"
So it's wrong for a supporter to debate with other supporters on a fans forum if a player is playing well enough to be selected? Also do you honestly think Harris or any other coach would be swayed by supporters opinion's?
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| just give him a chance. we all saw what type of player he is at wakey. he had a new coach and team to get to know, now he has a new coach to get to know again. gonna take a while. salford fans need to be prepared for this to take more than 1 season to "get right" and i mean the team, not 1 player.
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| Quote ="southern_rhino"just give him a chance. we all saw what type of player he is at wakey. he had a new coach and team to get to know, now he has a new coach to get to know again. gonna take a while. salford fans need to be prepared for this to take more than 1 season to "get right" and i mean the team, not 1 player.'"
It will take a minimum 3 years and a lot more investment before we will be anywhere close to challenging the top 4.
I personally hope smith can find the form he showed last year but sometimes being removed from a difficult situation for a period of time can actually help rather than hinder. If he's not right mentally give him a couple of weeks out of the spotlight rather than putting him in a situation he's finding difficult.
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| Give the guy a chance, it could be players not supporting him, being in the right positions, running lines etc.
The fella is obviously trying, it will come right, hopefully sooner than later
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| Quote ="scoot"Give the guy a chance, it could be players not supporting him, being in the right positions, running lines etc.
The fella is obviously trying, it will come right, hopefully sooner than later'"
I don't think anyone is questioning his effort.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"So Smith was on fire then before Noble left 2 weeks ago was he? Fages is irrelevant the kid has been switched to interchange hooker under Noble and left out under Harris so he's not been threatening Smiths place in the team.
Please remember that Smith is a senior professional and top quality players overcome issues when the take the field. As for being settled at Wakefield, I don't he was too bothered about that last year when he was signing a bigger contract. Also why would he be unsettled under Harris, surely by being selected in both games so far shows the coach has confidence in him.'"
I just said MM had a point. I didn't voice my opinion on the matter.
Chill out.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Fages is irrelevant the kid has been switched to interchange hooker under Noble and left out under Harris so he's not been threatening Smiths place in the team.'"
Right as usual...
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| Tim Smith will be fine,he's a good player.
Glad Theo has an opportunity for Harris to see him play,albeit Leeds away in a weakened team isn't ideal.
Smith will be back for the cup tie,unless there's a big upset today.
Delighted to see Howarth back. He's a much maligned figure !
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Right as usual...
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Thanks I could see it coming. (Hence the thread) With regards to Fages, who else would replace Tim Smith if Harris feels he needs to make a change?
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Thanks I could see it coming. (Hence the thread) With regards to Fages, who else would replace Tim Smith if Harris feels he needs to make a change?'"
Make your mind up, Wirecutter. You change the goalposts of your argument every time someone replies...
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| Whoever thought of putting this ill considered drivel on here needs to be put in the stocks at our game v the Chemics.
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| seems to me like your club is in disarey
confidence shot to bits
fool of a chairman that blabs garbage on social media and puts pressure on people
sat in 11th yes 11th in the table not Top 4 as you were all singing when you got Rangi..... although he is a brilliant individual player he isn't a team player as we found out and as you are finding out everything has to go through Rangi and EVERY other team knows this you are playing just like we were last year and look where we finished.......
add to that you have just sacked Nobby so Harris comes in players have to get used to his systems that's going to take time
believe it or not your squad is ORDINARY not world beaters with the exception of Chase and Hanson and maybe Hock but he is a grub so I would never say he is good rest are just average squad players and oldies
LOL give it a few week and Wakefield will have caught you.......
CLUB is in bits #sweet caroline COYF
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