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| in a statement released by the supporters trust on friday it stated that all historic debt had been settled and a meeting had been set for thursday 16th january 2014 @19:30 where dr marwan koukash will be in attendance to speak to lions supporters about the future.
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| Interviewed on BBC North West Tonight.
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| I can't get my head around this at all. Dr K mentioned that there's a possibility of Swinton playing in the top flight with Salford in the future (if he owns both teams).
Won't this be a conflict of interest, or am I missing the point?
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| Will they be playing at AJ Bell next season?
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| I notice certain Swinton posters on here have been conspicuous by their absence recently? Ming the merciless saving their club? I hope they don't choke on their humble pie....
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| There would be no conflict of interest, assuming he receives clearance from the RFL. Another way around it would be to name Mandy Koukash (his wife) as Swinton Lions chairman.
With regards to Swinton playing at the AJ Bell, I would imagine this would be the case although it is dependent upon obtaining acceptance from Sale who's contract dictates the amount of games played on the pitch.
One aspect of the take over I dont understand is Koukash's threat to move to Salford out of the AJ Bell Stadium if he doesnt gain the majority shares in the stadium. I cant imagine that attitude is going to assist Salford Council in approving any proposed developments for the St Ambrose Barlow site.
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| I think to many fans of Salford the idea of playing in Swinton would cause a stumbling block.
My thoughts on the Doc buying Salford are well known as are my reasons for feeling the way I do but I'm struggling to see how the threat too move out of Barton will help to facilitate his efforts to buy the stadium (or at least a majority share in it).
Surely if he really wants to buy the stadium and maximise the earning potential of the ground buying Sale would be his best potion? year round use of the stadium buy teams who own it would generate the largest income and would allow for much of the back room staff to be amalgamated and where seperate people are not needed cuts to be made allowing more money for investment in areas where it is needed. I'm not talking of making a joint organisation but one owner pooling both entities resources.
If people with an anti RU stance looked at things rationally I'm sure they'd see that the option above offers the best chances for the purchase of the stadium and maximum profits from it when complete.
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| It is difficult to compare and contrast with other sports clubs,locally and nationally,but it seems shared ownership of stadia and shared use by different sports is a recipe for disaster.
As this is about Swinton the time consuming,almost impossible task for constructing a stadium has a huge amount of obstacles to overcome.
At the moment Coventry FC are playing outside their city boundary,after financial assistance from the council,and their saga continues [url=http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/sisu-wins-judicial-review-decision-6354042Story[/url
I am still amazed at how the Olympic stadium was constructed in the densely populated area of east London in such a small timeframe.It must have been devoid of the lesser spotted newt;amongst other things.
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| Quote ="bandgeekmafia78"I can't get my head around this at all. Dr K mentioned that there's a possibility of Swinton playing in the top flight with Salford in the future (if he owns both teams).
Won't this be a conflict of interest, or am I missing the point?'"
Like Gary Hetherington - Kath Hetherington ( Leeds - GatesHull - Wakefield ) haven't been a clash of interest for years
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"There would be no conflict of interest, assuming he receives clearance from the RFL. Another way around it would be to name Mandy Koukash (his wife) as Swinton Lions chairman.
With regards to Swinton playing at the AJ Bell, I would imagine this would be the case although it is dependent upon obtaining acceptance from Sale who's contract dictates the amount of games played on the pitch.
One aspect of the take over I dont understand is Koukash's threat to move to Salford out of the AJ Bell Stadium if he doesnt gain the majority shares in the stadium. I cant imagine that attitude is going to assist Salford Council in approving any proposed developments for the St Ambrose Barlow site.'"
JGR, there is no conflict when both clubs are playing in two different competitions, I had this confirmed by the RL before xmas.
As far as Swinton playing at Barton then you are quite correct, sale have it written in to their contract with the stadium company that only four extra games can be played over and above Salford and Sale, with of course the exception of Man Utd which is quite frankly laughable when football damages a pitch far more than Rugby.
I was also surprised with MK's comment about moving Salford for the reasons you state and also currently his plans are for a 6k capacity stadium as this no where meets the RL minimum standard for an SL franchise. Perhaps more information will be released by MK when he meets with Swinton fans at a public meeting on Thursday. At this stage there a lot of unfounded rumours circulating regarding his Swinton takeover so much of this may well also be addressed.
One thing for sure talk of our demise is very much far from the truth.
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| I have a feeling that the Dr is trying to get some leverage with regards to our Stadium. It's no secret that he wants Salford to own their own ground and maybe sees hinting at a move as a way of progressing things.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I have a feeling that the Dr is trying to get some leverage with regards to our Stadium. It's no secret that he wants Salford to own their own ground and maybe sees hinting at a move as a way of progressing things.'"
Exactly what I was thinking
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| Surely though moving to a 6k seater stadium in Swinton would be a non starter if he wanted to stay in SL, isn't there a minimum size requirement? and I doubt a stadium of such a size would allow the income to run the club at the full cap season in season out.
Not entirely sure making such a threat was a good thing to do as it doesn't appear to well thought out.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I have a feeling that the Dr is trying to get some leverage with regards to our Stadium. It's no secret that he wants Salford to own their own ground and maybe sees hinting at a move as a way of progressing things.'"
What I don't follow with the purchase why the council don't sell, they are struggling financially so I'm sure recouping money on an investment would be a good thing for them. I can't make out Peels play in all this though, it is widely reported that the stadium isn't making money but it would appear to be that Peel are not willing to sell, for me there can only be some form of ulterior motive for them not selling, I mean after all isn't planning permission for their main goal in the area Port Salford all secured?
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Surely though moving to a 6k seater stadium in Swinton would be a non starter if he wanted to stay in SL, isn't there a minimum size requirement? and I doubt a stadium of such a size would allow the income to run the club at the full cap season in season out.
Not entirely sure making such a threat was a good thing to do as it doesn't appear to well thought out.'"
He was asked a question about moving Salford away from the stadium. He replied never say never. The question was ambiguous because the interviewer didn't ask if he intended to move Salford to Swinton, just if he would move us. It's not online anymore so can't confirm this, but that's what I took out of the interview.
I'll stand corrected though if he did actually say a move to Swinton.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"He was asked a question about moving Salford away from the stadium. He replied never say never. The question was ambiguous because the interviewer didn't ask if he intended to move Salford to Swinton, just if he would move us. It's not online anymore so can't confirm this, but that's what I took out of the interview.
I'll stand corrected though if he did actually say a move to Swinton.'"
Interview still online
[urlhttps://www.facebook.com/bbcnorthwesttonight#!/photo.php?v=698138403550558&set=vb.120655094632228&type=2&theater[/url
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| What if decided to move the club out of the city and say to a proposed stadium at Eastlands hence the lack of 'Salford' on the official logo? Interesting.
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| Quote ="Worzel"What if decided to move the club out of the city and say to a proposed stadium at Eastlands hence the lack of 'Salford' on the official logo? Interesting.'"
Why would he move the club away from Barton when his sole interest - as identified by experts on the Warrington forum - is to develop the land around the stadium? Must admit, I can't quite see how spending money on a squad, coaching team, backroom staff and gymnasium makes that happen, but I'm sure it does.
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| Are you for real? It's tough enough being located where we are geographically to Man United and Man City let alone moving bang next door to Man City. I also didnt realise Eastlands was a hot bed for RL.
I have lost count how many times Koukash has said he will always preserve the heritage and history of the club, including it's name.
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| Quote ="middleman"Interview still online
[urlhttps://www.facebook.com/bbcnorthwesttonight#!/photo.php?v=698138403550558&set=vb.120655094632228&type=2&theater[/url'"
I stand slightly corrected I suppose. But the questioning/editing was a little loose. I still think the Dr means that if we had to he would consider it, but not necessarily at a future Swinton stadium.
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| Butcher - the root to this still in his original intention:-
To create a success SL powerbase , with development & income streams to support it.
It's obvious his ambitions to aquire the Barton Stadium & devlopment land around ( or enough of it ) to provide those income streams aren't proceeding as quickly or cheaply as desired ,
smacks of leverage re the ' New Stadium '
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| Quote ="middleman"Butcher - the root to this still in his original intention:-
To create a success SL powerbase , with development & income streams to support it.
It's obvious his ambitions to aquire the Barton Stadium & devlopment land around ( or enough of it ) to provide those income streams aren't proceeding as quickly or cheaply as desired ,
smacks of leverage re the ' New Stadium ''"
Was my initial thought too.
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