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| Wigan not even out of 1st gear, thankfully Richards is not playing. Fages being shown he is out oh his depth again. Wild is now a championship level player. Gaskell never a centre. Walne has done OK since coming on also Foran.
One for the statos, has there ever been a club nilled by a club twice during the SL era? If not, they will be after tonight. Another proud record for us to hold along with the Bradford one
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| Isn't it past your bedtime?
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| Quote ="programmethrower"Wigan not even out of 1st gear, thankfully Richards is not playing. Fages being shown he is out oh his depth again. Wild is now a championship level player. Gaskell never a centre. Walne has done OK since coming on also Foran.
One for the statos, has there ever been a club nilled by a club twice during the SL era? If not, they will be after tonight. Another proud record for us to hold along with the Bradford one'"
I see that they have let you out once again.
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| Wow drinking shandy and such constructive messages.
What did you expect a 40 point reversal??
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| The only thing that's embarrassing is your posts.
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| Quote ="Happy Red"The only thing that's embarrassing is your posts.'"
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| I think he is spot on....he just forgot to mention the 6 points you managed......but hey your a massive club going places so who cares.
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| Quote ="Marshy1"I think he is spot on....he just forgot to mention the 6 points you managed......but hey your a massive club going places so who cares.'"
I'm reassured that you agree with him, speaks volumes...
Luckily , I was there & you were sat at home planning you next 'Wildian quip' , So I can form my own opinion.
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| Programmethrower, you need to get a grip.
What were you expecting?
This Wigan side is head and shoulders above everyone else this season, and they have hammered teams by nearly double the score last night. The lads can strike this one off as experience and take that into the next game.
You don't do yourself any favours and come across as a petulant child.
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| I think people would have a right to react this way if it was 12 months hence and we have had the full benefit of an off season in the recruitment market and a coach bringing some solidity to our ranks.
As it stands bask in the fact that we exist, we have money and that this new security seems to wind up people from the 3rd world who have less than a beggar in Whitefield.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Programmethrower, you need to get a grip.
What were you expecting?
This Wigan side is head and shoulders above everyone else this season, and they have hammered teams by nearly double the score last night. The lads can strike this one off as experience and take that into the next game.
You don't do yourself any favours and come across as a petulant child.'"
I accept the side is of poor quality. However when they play with no pride and passion I cannot accept? I take it you was in attendance last night? That 1st half performance was absymal, Wigan could of scored of every play if they wanted to. FWIW I did not pay the entrance fee last night to see a Salford victory, I came hoping they would continue to improve (which they did not) Pay with pride and passion and run the ball hard (Only Walne did) Play like they wanted to be at Salford. In my opinion many know they are not cut out for SL level and know they will not be playing at Salford next season, so the Jekyll and Hyde performances will continue. To accuse me of being a child and on the shandy show the maturity level of yourselves to be honest. This is professional sport at the end of the day and they are being paid to perform and on weekly basis.
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| There lies a very good point, there are a good many players who won't be at Salford (or in SL for that matter) so pretty much they will be treading water until the end of the season.
Think the Doc will have to offer good win bonuses to try and induce them to bigger and better performances.
Conjecture we all know but there can't be more than 10 or 12 of the current squad who know next season they will be playing in a Salford shirt.
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| Quote ="programmethrower"I accept the side is of poor quality. However when they play with no pride and passion I cannot accept? I take it you was in attendance last night? That 1st half performance was absymal, Wigan could of scored of every play if they wanted to. FWIW I did not pay the entrance fee last night to see a Salford victory, I came hoping they would continue to improve (which they did not) Pay with pride and passion and run the ball hard (Only Walne did) Play like they wanted to be at Salford. In my opinion many know they are not cut out for SL level and know they will not be playing at Salford next season, so the Jekyll and Hyde performances will continue. To accuse me of being a child and on the shandy show the maturity level of yourselves to be honest. This is professional sport at the end of the day and they are being paid to perform and on weekly basis.'"
If you had written something as reasoned as that as your first post, you would not have got the subsequent comments.
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| Quote ="programmethrower"I accept the side is of poor quality. However when they play with no pride and passion I cannot accept? I take it you was in attendance last night? That 1st half performance was absymal, Wigan could of scored of every play if they wanted to. FWIW I did not pay the entrance fee last night to see a Salford victory, I came hoping they would continue to improve (which they did not) Pay with pride and passion and run the ball hard (Only Walne did) Play like they wanted to be at Salford. In my opinion many know they are not cut out for SL level and know they will not be playing at Salford next season, so the Jekyll and Hyde performances will continue. To accuse me of being a child and on the shandy show the maturity level of yourselves to be honest. This is professional sport at the end of the day and they are being paid to perform and on weekly basis.'"
See, it isn't that hard to write something coherent and sensible now was it?
If you apply your own argument above to your own posts in future maybe people will start to reply sensibly.
As for what you've said, I can't argue with any of it.
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| Quote ="programmethrower"I accept the side is of poor quality. However when they play with no pride and passion I cannot accept? I came hoping they would continue to improve (which they did not) Pay with pride and passion and run the ball hard (Only Walne did) Play like they wanted to be at Salford. In my opinion many know they are not cut out for SL level and know they will not be playing at Salford next season, so the Jekyll and Hyde performances will continue. This is professional sport at the end of the day and they are being paid to perform and on weekly basis.'"
After your scurrilous slur last week it is a great sadness that any one has replied to you.
You now try and match that 'embarrassment' by questioning,nay stating,that the players last night not only lacked pride and passion but also lack the ability to play at Super League level.( Strange,I was brainwashed into thinking the lack of success was down to the former head coach.)
I am sorry I have missed your seminars on motivational speaking and I hope you are not employed,in any capacity,in the role of increasing attendances to support SCR.
Last night they were outplayed from start to finish by a Wigan side that were very good and very professional.To the extent that even though there was never any danger of them not winning by a large margin Wigan still resorted to professionalism/gamesmanship when it suited them.None more so than when they pulling back the Salford player off the ball which resulted in more 'family friendly' chants from the followers of SCR when it was not seen or acted upon by James Childs.
Our players played with good spirit throughout - despite the inevitable.Their lack of passion and pride resulting in a try at the death.
As for improvement - they were nilled at home by Wigan in round 1 and lost by 42 points.So scoring and losing by 40 points is an improvement.
There are more serious things to worry about:2 problems awaiting decisions by Red Hall next week and how the family friendly supporters can start to behave in an attractive manner for new supporters to attend Barton and continue attending.
The whole world awaits your next uplifting post...
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| I have plagiarised the following from another forum without checking it.I have no reason to doubt it and with it being professional sport and being paid an'all,it perhaps further demonstrates that those players wearing the Salford shirt did so with the utmost pride.( There are,of course,other statistics missing )
[iSky Sports ( and Phil Clarke) are big on showing how the statistics don't lie in games.
In one of yesterday's games the statistics were
Breaks
Team A 9 Team B 6
Offloads
Team A 9 Team B 17
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Team A 6 Team B 6
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Team A 15 Team B 10
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Team A 73 Team B 79
On this basis team A had the most breaks,
Team B had the most offloads, the fewest errors and the better completion rate
Penalties were even.
So on those statistics team B must have been better than team A
Final Score was................
Team A 46 Team B 6
( Wigan v Salford)
Who said statistics don't lie? [/i
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| Those stats are on [url=http://wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=2670Cherry and White[/url. You can use statistics to paint all kinds of pictures. Salford are 3rd in the league for offloads, much higher than Wigan who are near the bottom. That could give an indication of the style of play. It could also reflect the fact that Salford make less metres per carry than any other team and need to force the pass to get anywhere. I’d like to know the algorithm Sky uses for their pseudo-Margin Meter. The previous one was put together from a economics academic from a university I can’t remember.
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