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| The guy is killing us! Warrington have scored 4 tries off the back of four penalties in our half. I don't think they've made it into our half on their own. He's so blatant it's untrue. Koukash wants to tell the RFL to sort the reds out there so inconsistent it's a joke.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"The guy is killing us! Warrington have scored 4 tries off the back of four penalties in our half. I don't think they've made it into our half on their own. He's so blatant it's untrue. Koukash wants to tell the RFL to sort the reds out there so inconsistent it's a jokeQuote '" .'"
The RFL to sort the reds out? do you think the RFL will get you a manager & 17 Players
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| Maybe if you stopped conceding penalties it might help.
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| Most of the penalties he gave were infact penalties though mate. Not much the RFL can do about that. It's down to our players and coaching staff.
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| Typical Salford fan mentality blaming the ref. He made a couple of dubious decisions, but it wasn't Ganson who was letting the Warrington players slip through his fingers.
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| Quote ="Happy Red"Most of the penalties he gave were infact penalties though mate. Not much the RFL can do about that. It's down to our players and coaching staff.'"
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| I used to slag the referees as many still do. But when I watched matches live and then the recorded Sky version, the referees were right more often than not. They are closer than we are and, call me naive, but I don't believe they have any bias either!
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| I though Ganson had one monumental howler last night where he didn't re start the tackle count when a Warrington player clearly lashed out with his leg for the ball as it was kicked past him. Not a game changer or breaker but just a massively unprofessional decision by one of the (supposedly) better refs.
We can't blame the ref for getting tonked by a much better team that I'm sure will win something again this season. Think much as we dislike them Warrington have to be help up as the blue print for the direction Salford needs to go with the Docs new ownership.
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| Teesside wire has said we should stop conceding penalties and others have said the penalties wee tour and justified. I agree with both statements, however, were Warrington whiter than white?
Only one team were penalised for offside all night, 5 times. For us to stop conceding penalties like this it means us being twice as fit as any other team in SL as we have clearly got to ensure that we get back the full ten while other teams don't. I don't have an issue with being pulled for offside but all teams are offside at most play the balls so it must go both ways.
The other very subtle thing Mr Ganson did was pull us up for offside on 5th tackle. What difference does that make I hear you ask....well, we were offside on tackle 1. Why not pull us then? Pulling us on 5th gives Warrington 5 guess at our line, makes us tackle 5 times and moves them towards half way. A penalty now takes them into our 20 & wil have to do 2 sets back to back tiring us out. Very subtle and largely unnoticed but in this way a ref can influence how the game goes.
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| Quote ="red13pjb"Teesside wire has said we should stop conceding penalties and others have said the penalties wee tour and justified. I agree with both statements, however, were Warrington whiter than white?
Only one team were penalised for offside all night, 5 times. For us to stop conceding penalties like this it means us being twice as fit as any other team in SL as we have clearly got to ensure that we get back the full ten while other teams don't. I don't have an issue with being pulled for offside but all teams are offside at most play the balls so it must go both ways.
The other very subtle thing Mr Ganson did was pull us up for offside on 5th tackle. What difference does that make I hear you ask....well, we were offside on tackle 1. Why not pull us then? Pulling us on 5th gives Warrington 5 guess at our line, makes us tackle 5 times and moves them towards half way. A penalty now takes them into our 20 & wil have to do 2 sets back to back tiring us out. Very subtle and largely unnoticed but in this way a ref can influence how the game goes.'"
You make an interesting point, but there may be a simple explanation. Our players have to do so much defending that they just tire more than a team on the front foot, like Warrington, and genuinely can't get back the full ten. This would be more apparent later in the game and later in the tackle count.
To be honest, I only saw Ganson make two errors. The first when he missed the Warrington player put foot to ball and didn't reset the tackle count (the one Michigan Red mentioned). The second was when a Warrington player knocked-on only for them to be given a penalty for us being offside. Our lads didn't cause the knock-on, IMO, so the offside was surely irrelevant and we should have had the scrum regardless of the 'offside'.
None of the above changes the fact that Warrington were bigger, faster (particularly around the ptb) and stronger than us. We were well beaten by the better team.
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| Don't worry when the good doctor starts splashing the cash you will see and marked improvement in the standard of refereeing at Salford games. Trust me.
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| Quote ="tonyXIII"You make an interesting point, but there may be a simple explanation. Our players have to do so much defending that they just tire more than a team on the front foot, like Warrington, and genuinely can't get back the full ten. This would be more apparent later in the game and later in the tackle count.
To be honest, I only saw Ganson make two errors. The first when he missed the Warrington player put foot to ball and didn't reset the tackle count (the one Michigan Red mentioned). The second was when a Warrington player knocked-on only for them to be given a penalty for us being offside. Our lads didn't cause the knock-on, IMO, so the offside was surely irrelevant and we should have had the scrum regardless of the 'offside'.
None of the above changes the fact that Warrington were bigger, faster (particularly around the ptb) and stronger than us. We were well beaten by the better team.'"
I thought Ganson had a good game. I think the one where the warrington player kicked it it came back to Foran who knocked on so he gave the handover. Technically I think it should have been tackle count restarted and scrum to warrington but results the same and game restarts quicker. The second one if we were offside its a penalty, doesn't matter whether they knock on or not, offside is the first offence. Theory being that if you're offside you can get in their faces quicker and cause an error or cause them to make different decisions which lead to mistakes, etc
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