Time is running out for our coach of 4 years.... injuries/circumstances etc granted this is a very substandard performance against a side who are expected to be near the bottom. We look worse than last year and no lessons from last years embarassing defending learnt. What have they been doing all pre-season??? They look so unfit its untrue! Its cringeworthy. If things don't improve in the next month or two he has to go, and this isn't a knee jerk reaction, not after 4 years of cr*p rugby and no progress. We have been battered in all the friendlies bar Swinton (who gave us a game for most of it!)

They should be made to walk home after this, God helps us on Friday....

Godwin should get banned for that, cheapshot nothing less. Don't want to see that and shouldn't be condoned. They showed more urgency to get involved in that mini scuffle than they did in the whole game. What an embarassment it has been today for Salford RLFC, Sir John will not be happy and I don't blame him

And before we hear shouts of Its the first game,its the first of many games with this coach,we have got no better ,He seems able to coach skills OUT of players,no increase in crowds,no better reporting of the team.

Enough ,we need change before too long,next week might be enough to change opinion of others if today did not.

We didnt go this year after being there for the humiliation of last year,this was far worse!

Well Fred this IS a kneejerk reaction. SMc should be given maybe 80 minutes to turn it round. Maximum. Not even time added on.

shouldnt be given one more second at this club feck him off right now

How can 4 seasons in charge be a knee jerk reaction?

quins and crusaders give young british coaches a chance and both start with a win, both teams playing with passion and creativity, hope JW gets clued up with how to move the club forward

san - i was being sarky mate

But wait till later,there will be some who will say the same and mean it!

something that no one has mentioned yet is, what have Veivers and Alker added to the team in pre season? Seems very little after today and our pre season performances. Plus Mike Eccles as conditioner? Team looked more unfit than last season!

Don't really think we can afford to get rid of McRae and bring in someone else, unless we promote from within until the end of the season. I'll be seriously disappointed if we don't have a new coach for 2012 though.

Didn't go today as still rough after yesterday


All the hype about new players and what do we get the same performance as last year.
Common denominator... the coach
He should not have been given the ridiculous contract he has in the first place.
People say we can not afford to get rid of him, I say we can not afford to keep him.
And before you say the coach does not make players drop the ball miss tackles etc well he does set out the tactics and defensive drills.
He also appears to have done with Holdsworth what he has done with a lot of the players and that is coach the flair side of their game out of them.
Do the honourable thing McRae and please go.

DO YOU THINK SIR JOHN WILL DO SOME THING ABOUT IT,LIKE GET RID OF MCRAE AND SIMMS,I DON'T
DO YOU.

To answer your question Lance - no I don't think he will. Wilky is loyal (to a fault at times with certain people in the past/present within the Salford club) and will not rush into getting rid of people until it is at least midway through the season in my opinion, though with the apparent outlay him and the board have forked out on the squad then I don't know, we will have to see. One thing I do NOT want to happen is giving ALKER the job.... that would be suicide and with his 'alleged' behind the scenes behaviour he is no way responsible enough to get the job. I presume he would go too if McRae goes and is replaced, which in my opinion wouldn't be a bad thing because we need to get rid of the losing culture that surrounds the club, despite the stellar playing career Alker gave to us and for that we will always be thankful. No more jobs for the boys at Salford is whats needed in my view - a new more modern fresh approach with fresh coaching personnel at first team level

If we get to 5 games 5 losses like last year then he has to go, 1 win in 5 and he will probably have to go too. We have looked the poorest side at MM and we can no longer use the old 'we have the smallest salary cap' excuse that gets trotted out cause these new signings plus Holdsworths upgrade will mean we ain't paying peanuts... time to shape up or sh*t out as Brian Potter says.....

We didn't show as much loyalty to KH..........Get rid of Macrae NOW. He's just not good enough. For those of you who were saying, 'friendlies' didn't matter, well the evidence is there for all to see. No discipline, no idea in attack, no defence, not enough team spirit to at least make a fight of it, (The game, not fisticuffs).

Strikes me that if McCrae goes and is replaced with a new coach, then unless the new man has carte blanche to change the whole management structure nothing much will change. It's been said on other posts that the same thing has happened with Andy Greg and Karl Harrison - so it's not JUST Sean McCrae - there is something fundamentally wrong - such a pity it wasn't sorted out pre-season when the player recruitment was happening.

It would seem pretty clear though, that we've started this season exactly where we left off last - there were also enough warnings in the pre-season games, beaten by Leigh, slaughtered by HKR. Unprofessional behaviour, getting players banned for happenings in friendlies just says there isn't a strong enough management in place.

In the past I've not been one to call for the manager's head - after today I think my opinion is swinging around - if we want to make this season into something memorable there must be some action - Mr Wilkinson - PLEASE!

As the Leigh game is part of the topic, doesn't it strike you as strange that our best player against Leigh had only just arrived a few days earlier!!!!

Lets be honest with ourselves, pains me to say it but Wilky wont get rid of McRae and McRae wont walk. Were in for a long season!!!!!!

Go on the BBC Sport website and read Macrae's after game comments - The guy has no idea, HE'S THE ONE WHO'S EMBARASSING!

To give you an example of how badly unprepared our team is you only have to look at the drop out when the Crusaders made the short kick and regathered the ball. This is a play they made a few times last year. It just proves beyond doubt that McRae and the other coaches aren't doing their jobs thoughrally. A good coach would have knowledge of this and be telling the players before the game about it. At this level it just isn't good enough. If they can't pick up on a detail like this what hope is there?

Mcrae says hes not in the mood yet to speak to Godwyn about the sending off

jeez he should be right in his face for it

It isn't about the chairman being too "nice" to sack him, it's that we cannot afford to sack him. How many people on the coaching staff?
Mistake was made by giving such a long contract to a mate of Simms.

The only option for the club is to engineer a resignation, but my guess is that McRea is hard faced and will cling on until the end.

Please Salford, don't implode, i've seen it too often, and frankly i'm bored of it.

I really hope a long season won't be our LAST season.

Tactically naive and very predictable. It's really not good enough for Super League.

One of the Sky commentators hit the nail on the head today.

He said atleast Salford can be proud of one thing (before Godwin's little "incident" that is) they've been a clean and fair team giving away very few penalties.

That to me just shows that there's no hunger or passion, which stems from the poor coaching. We just seem to be too tame and give the opposition way too much respect. All other teams are in your face and pushing for mistakes, we sit back and watch with puppy dog eyes. Mr Wilkinson is a charming, polite person but if that's how the team come across we'll never get anywhere.

We need now a coach with a fierce bite and some attitude to push our lads and make other teams scared of us. Without this edge they'll be even more tonkings coming our way.