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| When we have a scrum feed and are defending our own 20,its crying out for either Ratchford or Holdsworth to boot the ball as hard as possible on the first tackle for Jody to chase.The opposing fullbacks are always up in the line,leaving about 80 metres of field with no defenders.Lee Briers has done this move often with great results [ Lee Penny etc What have you to lose? Even if we didnt collect the ball, we will have gained many yards upfield, which our forwards seem unable to do .
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| we have done this in the past, but under the current coach this would not be allowed because it affects the completion rate of the sets of six, remember Rubgy is all about Percentages
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| mcrae does love his completion stats...probably a little more than attacking too
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| I'm a big fan of off the cuff rugby, chips over the top, hail mary type long distance up and unders, a big push at the scrum, cross field kicks generally the type of rugby we witnessed the other week with the vidoe feed of the CC win over Wigan all those years ago. Play that type of hot potato rugby and you may not win every game but you would win a fair few and the fans would be happy with the effort and commitment without a shadow of a doubt.
Unfortunately as I was told by a member of the playing staff the other week that kind of thinking and play is discouraged vigerously by SM.
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| If SM does indeed discourage " off the cuff " rugby then I for one will be glad when he goes.As said before , its not that we get beat that hurts , but the way in which we get beat.I would much rather watch a team playing open rugby and losing , than what we are dishing up at the moment.
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| It does beggar belief that for the first time in years we have some real pace in the threequarters and yet we continue to drive up the middle, even with our best forward Cashmere injured, no change in tactics - same old same old.....
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| we aint got anyone on the field with brains to try out like that
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| who's lee penny? kevins brother?
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| Ooops sorry !!!!!!!
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| Well I'm pleased to say I told you so - we have got pace in our threequarters looked like we actually made use of it today - Hat trick for Tyrer - well done The Red
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Well I'm pleased to say I told you so - we have got pace in our threequarters looked like we actually made use of it today - Hat trick for Tyrer - well done The Red
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So does that we mean we have to credit the coach with a smart change of tactics or the players for finally doing what they were told by the coach?
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| Is Broughton really that fast though? He had clear ground ahead on Sunday and never looked like scoring. I agree about kicking early though. Quins full back wasn't dropping back until the 3rd tackle most of the time. We struggled to get out in the first half and a decent kick early would have helped.
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| Quote ="RedUnderTheBed"So does that we mean we have to credit the coach with a smart change of tactics or the players for finally doing what they were told by the coach?
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Good question - Whilst I'm not a fan of Mr McRae, I don't subscribe to the general point of view on here that any loss is his fault and any win is despite of him - let's hope it's a bit of both and that it may continue!!
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| Quote ="RedUnderTheBed"So does that we mean we have to credit the coach with a smart change of tactics or the players for finally doing what they were told by the coach?
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What about a third option of them ignoring the tactics and [u not[/u doing what they were told by the coach?
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| Quote ="redballoon99"When we have a scrum feed and are defending our own 20,its crying out for either Ratchford or Holdsworth to boot the ball as hard as possible on the first tackle for Jody to chase.The opposing fullbacks are always up in the line,leaving about 80 metres of field with no defenders.Lee Briers has done this move often with great results [ Lee Penny etc What have you to lose? Even if we didnt collect the ball, we will have gained many yards upfield, which our forwards seem unable to do .'"
Last time I remember seeing that Tactic Frank Cassidy was at Stand off Half in Swinton Derby match.
Danny Brough tried it on us last season.
Smacks of 'Rugby' and I doubt McCrae would allow such radical thinking involving such intuition & skill.
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| Quote ="middleman"Smacks of 'Rugby' and I doubt McCrae would allow such radical thinking involving such intuition & skill.'"
Smacks of Rugby Union. It's not radical and nor does it involve intuition or skill.
It's rarely used in SL because it's not particularly effective.
Best used as a desperation measure when losing narrowly late in a game.
Otherwise I'd be happy if we never did it, let alone using it as a regular option.
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