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| Today's MEN, Simms claims that Holdsworth will be the final recruit for the season. I'm very worried we haven't replaced Stapo, he is a big loss and Ryan Boyle is pretty inexperienced, Boyle is more of a replacement for Nash.
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| i agree our props look very poor this year
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| Me and Big pev will do it, rotate every 15 mins, jobs a good un, and we wont want paying. just wearing the shirt will be enough. How about that Mr Simms?
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| Quote ="Chris Charles No1 Fan"Me and Big pev will do it, rotate every 15 seconds, jobs a good un, and we wont want paying. just wearing the shirt will be enough. How about that Mr Simms?'"
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| Quote ="The King Of Birchwood"Typo corrected
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| We should use some of the Myler money and buy Big Willie Mason!
What happened to the Myler money while on the subject?
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| Quote ="andyreds22"We should use some of the Myler money and buy Big Willie Mason!
What happened to the Myler money while on the subject?'"
It paid off the tax bill! as has been stated many times over.
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| hope we dont have to sell Stefan Ratchford to pay next years tax bill
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| Yeah but what happened to the Myler money?
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"It paid off the tax bill! as has been stated many times over.'"
Perhaps then we could use the money ear marked for the tax bill, had we not sold Myler
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| How are you when it comes to having room for a quota player? Stosic is a very good prop who would improve just about any super league teams front row.
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"It paid off the tax bill! as has been stated many times over.'"
Sorry - What tax bill? - if a company is making a loss then there is no corporation tax to pay
There may be VAT to pay if the merchandise sales outweigh the purchases costs, but in that case the cash will have come in with the sales revenue
There will be Income Tax & NI from the wages, but that (apart from the employer's NI contribution) will have been deducted from the wage itself
So I ask again - What tax bill?
It may of course have been used to reduce the overdraft and any relience upon the robber baron banks.
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| front rowers this season will be between cashmere, boyle, jewitt, sidlow, big phil and parker. 6 front rowers seems enough to me!
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"front rowers this season will be between cashmere, boyle, jewitt, sidlow, big phil and parker. 6 front rowers seems enough to me!'"
and if any of these get injured who have we got to replace them in the pack. we need at least 5 of these to be fit ever match to have a decent pack oherwise where f@@kd
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| Quote ="andyreds22"Today's MEN, Simms claims that Holdsworth will be the final recruit for the season. I'm very worried we haven't replaced Stapo, he is a big loss and Ryan Boyle is pretty inexperienced, Boyle is more of a replacement for Nash.'"
I'm sure I wrote this on here at the weekend. No worries, you can have it matey!
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| Quote ="andyreds22"We should use some of the Myler money and buy Big Willie Mason!
What happened to the Myler money while on the subject?'"
Dear lord no! Dreadful-dreadful-dreadful is about as complimentary as I can be after watching him this year.
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"front rowers this season will be between cashmere, boyle, jewitt, sidlow, big phil and parker. 6 front rowers seems enough to me!'"
Of the 6 listed, how many are actually genuine super league standard at prop? I'd say 1 having not seen Boyle play very often.
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Sorry - What tax bill? - if a company is making a loss then there is no corporation tax to pay
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At the Forever Reds meeting Howard Clague when asked where had the Myler
money gone to, replied "It has paid the tax man".
It could be Income Tax, VAT, NI etc.
Presumably if that money had not been used then the directors would have had to dip into their pockets once again.
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| Makes you wonder who we're going to have to sell next year in order to pay the taxman! Oh, how we all long for the days when we're making a profit...
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| i think they will move parker to prop from 2nd row, its a waste of his talents but he'll give you a good 8/10 performance everyweek which is what we need from everyone if we are to go to the next level
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"At the Forever Reds meeting Howard Clague when asked where had the Myler
money gone to, replied "It has paid the tax man".
It could be Income Tax, VAT, NI etc.
Presumably if that money had not been used then the directors would have had to dip into their pockets once again.'"
mmm - like I said - it's actually been used to reduce the overdraft then - if the Myler money hadn't come in then income tax, Vat, NI etc would still have had to be paid (and income tax and employees NI is witheld from their wages anyway, VAT is just the difference on oupt tax and input tax) - so what the club are telling us is that the Myler money has been used for day to day costs rather than a step change in squad improvement. Those who know me will know that I'm not one to criticise the club or the directors and I have the greatest admiration for the financial support they've put in over the years (without that there would be no SCR) - but this strikes me as a bit of an opportunity lost.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Of the 6 listed, how many are actually genuine super league standard at prop? I'd say 1 having not seen Boyle play very often.'"
All of them? We're salford now leeds or wire. We cant go out and buy big name props. The season hasn't even started and we are already writing our pack off!
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"All of them? We're salford now leeds or wire. We cant go out and buy big name props. The season hasn't even started and we are already writing our pack off!'"
Oh I know we're not. But, half-backs, hookers, 2nd rowers and backs all have 1 thing in common. They are all surplus to requirements without quality forwards preventing the opposition from creating momentum whilst creating momentum for their own blokes to work on the back of. I just feel that if we are going to bring a bloke over from Aus, which is never a cheap option, we should be bringing a prop over.
10 years ago Bradford were dominant in super league on the basis their team was bigger and stronger than everybody else's. Year on year, other teams have followed suit to the point where props in 2009 were far fitter, faster and stronger than ever before. It will be the same in 2010. Without following this trend, bigger teams will run over the top of you up the middle and no matter who you have in the backs, (Apart from maybe Greg Inglis), you'll get no joy as they'll never get quality ball on the back of momentum created by dominant props. Hopefully I'm underestimating our props but from what I've seen in the last couple of years, they're a little of the pace.
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| They might be a good prop coming thought the academy.
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