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| Dear Mr. McRae,
If I understood your remarks to the press the other week correctly you said or implied that you did not know what to do to improve Salford's performances. As someone who has seen all our pre-season and League matches so far, might I presume to offer you the following advice?
On attack we could practise moves in which we have dummy runners so that our playmakers have options and do not just have one man to pass to, who is then forced to drive the ball into the nearest opponent. We could practise moves which do not involve the first receiver just driving the ball into the nearest opposition forward. We could practise moving the ball wider more quickly so that we can exploit space on the fringes. Somebody could work with our kickers to improve their kicking games so that we had options near the opposition line. We could also practise kicking from our own half so that the opposition full back was forced to move a few yards - or even go backwards - to field the ball.
On defence we could practise moving up quickly in a line so that we could smother the opposition and give them little or no room to play with. We could practise putting two or three men into the tackle and attempting to smother the ball so that the opposition could not pass it in the tackle. Then we could practise dominating the tackle so that the opposition could not play the ball very quickly. We could find time for our full-back and wingers to practise finding the correct field position to catch the ball on the full when the opposition kick it instead of letting it bounce.
As a team we could have sessions which made the players aware of the importance of teamwork so that they were pleased with each other's contributions so that important tackles were celebrated. We could also try to decide how the opposition were going to play and try to develop ways of counteracting them. For example, if we had realised that Wigan - like any Brian Noble team - would attempt to dominate the tackle and the 'ruck' area by turning us onto our backs to slow down our play the balls, we could have wriggled about and tried very hard to get to our feet early and we might just have been awarded the odd penalty instead of lying submissively in every tackle.
I hope you find this useful and can plan some training sessions to incorporate some of these ideas as I am getting a little worried about what I keep seeing as I think that the sum total of each player's skills is far far greater than the team's performances suggest.
Yours in sport,
RedDave
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| i just like to add that as most tries are scored from open play and a great way to create open play is from an off load could you devise some sort of training program that incorporated players practicing passing the ball from a tackle and for other players to anticipate this, i believe the term is to back them up.
any variation in play would be appreciated as my wife only in her second season as a fan now has no problem predicting our play.
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| Quote On defence we could practise moving up quickly in a line so that we could smother the opposition and give them little or no room to play with. We could practise putting two or three men into the tackle and attempting to smother the ball so that the opposition could not pass it in the tackle. Then we could practise dominating the tackle so that the opposition could not play the ball very quickly. We could find time for our full-back and wingers to practise finding the correct field position to catch the ball on the full when the opposition kick it instead of letting it bounce. '"
This paragraph sums up probably the things that have annoyed me most about the team when watching them play this season and to an extent the two before that.
We never move up and always wait for the opposition to run into us rather than moving forward and looking to make the tackle - if you stand there and the opposition player has momentum, you're going to get driven back and give up even more metres - simple stuff but we don't seem to be able to grasp it.
Teams offloading when there's 3 in the tackle is just as bad - if there's 3 in there, one of them has to get their ball carrying arm wrapped up. It's basic but again, we don't seem capable of it at the moment.
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| I would like to had that we as a defence cant seem to tackle round the legs we always seem to go high and thats how teams break are line so easy so learning how to tackle a must as well also agree with all comments above. I cant see them listening thouh they never listen to supporters
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| I would add tape yourself on sky and listen to your own advice, you talk a good game on TV just don't coach one in real life.
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| i suppose you believe you could so much better? i am fed up with hearing so called supporters booing jeering and generally getting on the players backs. i mean did you really believe we were going to win super league this is a new team in a new league and it will develop over the next year or so, i was stood in front of a guy last night who was just waiting for the players to make a mistake then he could shout (this is rubbish) i saw and spoke to a few of the players after the game away from the ground and believe me they are hurting they are doing everything possible to put things right and our job as supporters is to SUPPORT. ps all the guys were sat around the same table and i can assure anyone there is certainly no problems in the camp they looked very together, so we can now quash all the they dont get on rumours!!!!!
Please let the coach get on with it he knows what he is doing he as the winners medals to prove it.
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| brooky red
the coach did ask for advice from the fans, does this sound like a man who knows what he is doing, over here in the past he has had world class players at his disposal, when in oz he ended up with the wooden spoon twice before being relieved of his post.
Wigan were forced to play the kids and these have kept out the aussies, McRae does not like young players for some reason yet Myler stood out like a sore thumb last night, pair him with Ratchford in the middle and put Thornley back on the wing, but he will always play the Aussie holiday makers first and that is what is getting on fans nerves. we have some good young players who would benefit form two world class aussies rather than five limp lettuces we have signed agian.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"
Wigan were forced to play the kids and these have kept out the aussies, . '"
Time for this to happen at Salford now. Putting the kids in at Wigan has improved their season so it's time we did the same.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"I would add tape yourself on sky and listen to your own advice, you talk a good game on TV just don't coach one in real life.'"
Sorry to chip in,but he did alright for us at Hull.
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| Spoke to some of the aussie players whilst they were waiting for a taxi outside the club last night after they had some comments of some of our fans who were leaving the Willows . They looked very down, they are feeling it as much as the fans & getting personal to them will not help & I did apologise if they were offended.
Im not happy with whats going on on the pitch, but if you don't like it, either don't go & watch it or lets try & give the team some encouragement. We think we all know best & are all closet coaches, maybe some fans don't think much of McReas coaching tactics but along with the injuries at present & players playing out of position, lets get of everyone's backs until we have those players back & see what happens when he has a full squad to pick from.
I didn't hear his post match interview, but if whats posted is right, he is probably as frustrated as the fans are with the play, but lets cut him a bit of slack till the injury situation is resolved
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Time for this to happen at Salford now. Putting the kids in at Wigan has improved their season so it's time we did the same.'"
With that in mind, what team would you like to see fielded against HKR?
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| Watch the Salford Vs Wigan 1988 Lancs Cup Final and see what Salford should be playing like now! They were a great side back then!
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| Dear Reddave,
When can you take over ?
Yours hopelessly,
Shaun McRae
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| Quote ="Big Spender"Dear Reddave,
When can you take over ?
Yours hopelessly,
Shaun McRae'"
Dear Shaun (if I may call you that),
Rest assured I have no desire to take over from you. I offered what I thought was sound advice because of what I understood you had said to the press.
I am not one of those who has booed the team off, nor have I abused individuals within the club. I did not expect to win every game we played this season; nor did I presume to think we would win 50% of our matches, but I did hope that we would be well organised so that we would be competitive for most of our games and what I think I am concerned about is the team organisation in certain areas as I think our players are better than their recent performances have suggested.
Looking forward to an improved Salford,
RedDave
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| well said B.B.M.
I dont have any ideas,but you can feel the frustration of the players ,especially Myler on friday,you could see how he felt.
As for the new guys,some seem to think they have come for a holiday and a good pay packet,I cannot imagine we pay enough to make up for the abuse they are taking from some of the crowd.
Maybe some thought we were going to set superleague on fire ,but the game has moved on so much since we have been away.
True we did well last year,but we were full time so we should have done.
We are clearly not up to speed,but neither were Cas,look at them now,we need to stick with it and keep off the players backs,I know some dont agree but what else can we do ?
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| can somebody tell me where the game has moved on in the past year as everyone keeps saying, a tackle is a tackle, a kick is a kick, the play the ball is the same, a pass is a pass, and it has not quickened up, the only thing that is different is that there are 14 clubs and not 12 and we are not playing Warrington 4 times which might have been OK this year.
these are just excuses, to cover that Salford have actually gone backwards since KH left with regards defence and tactics, last Monday Stuart Littler stated that there was tackling practise over the weekend which was very intense, it looks to me that by Friday night a number of players had forgot about.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"With that in mind, what team would you like to see fielded against HKR?'"
Obviously we can't make massive changes however it must be getting close to time to trying Ratchford at 6, Turner needs to be more involved so should maybe be switched to 13, with Mcgilvray (if fit) and Thornley coming into the backs.
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| San!
I think you have got it wrong most fan supporting Salford for all these years are realistic, we expect to be at the bottom come the end of the season but the frustration is bore out of a lack of idea from the team.
You must know following Salford we have been up & down a few times but most fans on here will also know we have at least competed in those games & thats where the frustration is coming from.
I am not a boo boy & I will be there following my team but we must see an improvement in the teams performance before we are down to just a few hard core die hards.
I get a little frustrated when a negative view is shown on the forum to be greeted with you know if you don't like it go & support another team at this rate we will have no supporters, we cannot all be wrong?
Fans voicing there feeling are just as frustrated & I don't know of one fan who thinks we were going to be in the top 8 we might have hoped but that all you have following our club
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| San and BBM.
Red coloured spectacles and all that.
The performances not just this year but last year and when we were relegated are just not up to scratch.
The play is boring, every team knows what we are going to do and the coach does not seem to have any answers.
When people say well go and support someone else that really pi$$es me off.
I know we will not win SL but I expect to be able to watch a entertaining game.
When our sum total of tactics is 5 drives and a kick then something is drastically wrong.
We need a winger, we have two injured but have another Thornley who scored on his debut.
A Wigan lad with something to prove against his home club, what did McRae do drop him, and yes he was cleared to play.
The Aussies are hurting are they well make them hurt more and drop them, as watching them is certainly painful to me.
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| Quote ="Bigpev" last Monday Stuart Littler stated that there was tackling practise over the weekend which was very intense, it looks to me that by Friday night a number of players had forgot about.'"
Just to remind you we let that Donkey Pat Richards lope down the touchline like he was Martin Offiah whilst about £250,000 of rugby player collectively hit him with their handbags, not content with that embarrassment we then let Thomas Leluai dance out of more woeful lunges to plant the ball over the tryline. Tackling practise
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| simply f**k off your s**t
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| Quote ="brooky red"i suppose you believe you could so much better? i am fed up with hearing so called supporters booing jeering and generally getting on the players backs. i mean did you really believe we were going to win super league this is a new team in a new league and it will develop over the next year or so, i was stood in front of a guy last night who was just waiting for the players to make a mistake then he could shout (this is rubbish) i saw and spoke to a few of the players after the game away from the ground and believe me they are hurting they are doing everything possible to put things right and our job as supporters is to SUPPORT. ps all the guys were sat around the same table and i can assure anyone there is certainly no problems in the camp they looked very together, so we can now quash all the they dont get on rumours!!!!!
Please let the coach get on with it he knows what he is doing he as the winners medals to prove it.'" Agreed, we (Cas) were in the same position last year and have seen great improvements this year. Patience, bide your time, it will come.
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| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"
I didn't hear his post match interview, but if whats posted is right, he is probably as frustrated as the fans are with the play, but lets cut him a bit of slack till the injury situation is resolved'"
As far as I can see we only have White, Talau and Wilshere injured or awol who would get in the first team out of the 28 man squad. I also recall quite a few people saying before the season 'the back line looks a bit weak, might struggle if we get a few injuries to any back line regulars'
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"San and BBM.
Red coloured spectacles and all that.
The performances not just this year but last year and when we were relegated are just not up to scratch.
The play is boring, every team knows what we are going to do and the coach does not seem to have any answers.
When people say well go and support someone else that really pi$$es me off.
I know we will not win SL but I expect to be able to watch a entertaining game.
When our sum total of tactics is 5 drives and a kick then something is drastically wrong.
We need a winger, we have two injured but have another Thornley who scored on his debut.
A Wigan lad with something to prove against his home club, what did McRae do drop him, and yes he was cleared to play.
The Aussies are hurting are they well make them hurt more and drop them, as watching them is certainly painful to me.'"
Agreed.
People giving the 3 year licence as an excuse to the dros we're turning in week in week out is also p1ssing me right off!!!
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| Quote ="The Original Red Devils"Agreed.
People giving the 3 year licence as an excuse to the dros we're turning in week in week out is also p1ssing me right off!!!'"
There is so many reasons that three year argument is utter nonsense. People could accept a tough year if they felt progress was being made but as it stands we have won one game against a team in their first Super League match and have since not been in a game for longer than half an hour. Talk of 3 years indicates progression but we are flat lining fast and any sane person knows it is only gonna get worse. Anyone want to suggest when we will next win a game?
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