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| What has happened to these two.
Both looked capable of SL albeit in NL last season.
Same goes for Turner but there is a another post
on him.
Rumours of Saints interest in Ratchford during
the closed season.McRae does not appear to
fancy Ratchford for some reason.
Can see a club coming in for Ratchford (not
necessarily Saints) for his goal and tactical
kicking.
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| It's a very interesting point, young Ratchford has been conspicuous by his absence. Not only on the teamsheet but also on this forum where (and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) I can't recall a single poster questioning his absence from the teamsheet.
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| I would sooner see good young players develop than watch old ones stagnate. Ratchford, Turner and Sidlow should be in and playing- why they have not played yet is baffling, specially given the lack of creativity on show.
The whole point of no relegation is to give young players a chance. Get them in!
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| Now some people might disagree, but I would say Turner needs to come into the side after the Wakefield game. We need another player who run the ball hard and straight off the halfbacks, whilst having the ability to oflload.
Now I personally thought he looked like a good prospect at Loose Forward, if he can step up to Super League. The more likely option is at centre though with Stuart Littler most likely to make way. I realize this is harsh on Littler who always gives 100%, but lets face he is never going to create a damn thing. The other option is to move Luke Swain to second row.
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| Fair point 'LincolnDEVILSFan'
But on yesterdays performance I would drop Talau to the bench and replace him with Turner in the centres next Saturday at the Jungle.
Plus Ratchford should replace Smith who also looked out off sorts yesterday.
And while I'm at it John Wilshere is wasted out on the wing so if it was up to me he would start at full-back instead of Fitzpatrick this week.
In ref to Stuart Littler he gave 100% yesterday and thats more than could be said for a few others on view.
RANT OVER.....
OVER TO YOU COACH McRAE....
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| Quote ="Mr James ROwley"Fair point 'LincolnDEVILSFan'
But on yesterdays performance I would drop Talau to the bench and replace him with Turner in the centres next Saturday at the Jungle.
Plus Ratchford should replace Smith who also looked out off sorts yesterday.
And while I'm at it John Wilshere is wasted out on the wing so if it was up to me he would start at full-back instead of Fitzpatrick this week.
In ref to Stuart Littler he gave 100% yesterday and thats more than could be said for a few others on view.
RANT OVER.....
OVER TO YOU COACH McRAE....'"
I might agree with you over the Talau issue, he was poor yesterday. I have to admit that Fitzy does give me some cause for concern. Does not look comfortable under the high ball and just as worryingly seems to get caught out of position. Was not impressed with either winger yesterday also.
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| After yesterdays individual performances - Littler would be one of the first names on my teamsheet for the Cas game. It is too easy to use him as the obvious one to drop all the time. There are plenty more who put far less effort in and did far more wrong than him yesterday.
And no I am not Stuart Littler or any relative of his
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| We have three years to develop players.
Why is he playing all the overseas contingent.
Look at Cas next week they will have three players from their youth set up playing. Richard Owen, Michael Shenton, Joe Westerman.
Thats what we should be doing
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| have i not been saying this for the last 2 weeks
aussies out kids in
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| Quote ="Prestwich Red"Look at Cas next week they will have three players from their youth set up playing. Richard Owen, Michael Shenton, Joe Westerman.
Thats what we should be doing'"
These 3 have all had a full season in SL under their belts already and will be playing alongside, at the very least, 6 very experienced overseas players (McGoldrick, Evans, Sherwin, Chase, Faumuina, Sargeant)
If we go with the same 17 as the first 2 weeks then we'll have Littler and Adamson from our youth set-up plus young Myler and Nash involved...we can't just throw all the kids in all at once - it wont work and it could harm their development in the long run which is something I think Mcrea is very aware of.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"These 3 have all had a full season in SL under their belts already and will be playing alongside, at the very least, 6 very experienced overseas players (McGoldrick, Evans, Sherwin, Chase, Faumuina, Sargeant)
If we go with the same 17 as the first 2 weeks then we'll have Littler and Adamson from our youth set-up plus young Myler and Nash involved...we can't just throw all the kids in all at once - it wont work and it could harm their development in the long run which is something I think Mcrea is very aware of.'"
This is what I am saying.
They got the experience last year and are the better for it.
I would rather see Jordan Turner, Sidlow, Ratchford out there getting a game as these are our future.
Maybe not a full game but at least on the Bench for some of the games.
What about Talau,Littler.Parker,Paul,Alker,White,Fitzpatrick,Wilshere have these guys not enough SL experience to help them along ?
We have 3 yrs as I have said.
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| didnt ratchford and turner play the last time we where in super league
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| Quote ="EVERTON1"have i not been saying this for the last 2 weeks
aussies out kids in'" Do you think we were wrong to sign Cashmere,Talou,Smith,Swain&Henry?
Having signed them we have to play them at the start of the season,then if they don't perform they should be left out and the youngsters given a chance.
It's ok saying we've got three years with no relegation but if we put all the kids in and they get hammered every week,that does nobody any good and our already poor attendances will drop even further.
I really think we have to trust the coach on this one.I'm sure as the season goes on they'll all get a chance
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| Quote ="nnn"I would sooner see good young players develop than watch old ones stagnate.'"
You honestly think players are 'stagnating' after the first two games of the season, which have ended in a win and a loss?
Quote ="nnn"Ratchford, Turner and Sidlow should be in and playing- why they have not played yet is baffling, specially given the lack of creativity on show.'"
Why? We're trying to build a squad and bed players in gently. The majority of the 17 for the last two weeks have a lot more experience in top flight RL. Do you not think it's benefecial for their development to step into a team with experienced pros playing alongside them rather than throw three more kids in at the deep end?
Quote ="nnn"The whole point of no relegation is to give young players a chance. Get them in!'"
They will, but theres another 25 SL games to go yet. Give it time.
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