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| Message frpm Peter Kay to Shaun McCrae
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| McRae has to go. It is said the club cannot afford to sack him. I say they cannot afford not to sack him. By the end of the season, if not before, there will be no one watching and with poor gates, low revenue streams etc you can forget a franchise.
From where I stand in the Shed, towards the North Stand end of the ground, there are already many faces in the crowd, familiar over the years, absent.
I have said on several posts that the club has gone backwards since McRae came in. We were poor in the National League, it was only full time status that saw us through. The style of rugby throughout his reign has been dire and there are no signs of it improving. We are never going to win a game with one man rugby, when we concede a minumum sixty yards over six tackles because we don't move up in defence and so have to start on our line very set. Then because we are so slow at the play the balls and players get the ball standing we are lucky to get out of the forty before a kick and back the opposition come again. It has gone on every week. Mcrae often highlights this lack of field position but has he changed or done anything to rectify things. Again tonight we saw a side who upped it against us , tweaked things at half time and we had no response. Catalans were missing both their first choice half backs!
The players are making mistakes but their morale looks shot. There is clearly no confidence, co-ordination or method in anything they do. I thought it was hard of the Shed to have a go at the players tonight. There are players out there fit to wear the shirt. They are just in a badly coached team. Stefan Ratchford is a case in point. He was prefered to Myler by us all last season and yet he now looks a pale shadow of the player who caused a buzz everytime he got the ball.
There is not one crumb of comfort to be taken from tonight at all. I cannot see how we are going to get a win.
I started the thread by mentioning disappearing faces in the Shed. I fear mine may soon be one, which hurts as I have followed Salford since first seeing them as a 9 year old in 1973. (What must the greats of that side think?) I am rapidly losing the faith.
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| like has been said, some blame has to go to the players as well as the coach. I think the players need to stop talking rubbish every week in the papers about a win is not far away and we've been training really hard etc and come up with the goods! Turning point of the match IMO was when alker stuck is hand out for some reason when there was never an intercept and knocked on. They didnt look like scoring but we gave them field position and they grew in confidence! Also both our wingers coming up with silly errors in our our half from kicks.
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| one of the best coaches in rugby league is at leigh finding his way again after the he took at pie land ect ,get this out the door .come on john get mr millward in the hot seat
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| Is it all
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| Quote ="PHOTO FINISH"Is it all
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I would put Alket and Simms in there as well plus JW for hiring the bunch of losers.
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| I really dont know why everybody rates Alker so highly.the only time I rate him is when he trys to run from dummy half .Ok he puts in a lot of tackles,but I would much rather see an attacking "hooker".Same with Adamson and Parker.They are just too lightweight for me.If we are going to play it down the middle all the time,we need somebody like Fekka from Wigan,not lightweights who just bounce off the wall.
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| Quote ="redballoon99"Same with Adamson and Parker.They are just too lightweight for me.If we are going to play it down the middle all the time,we need somebody like Fekka from Wigan,not lightweights who just bounce off the wall.'"
I'd agree with that. It's not for want of trying, but body mass is crucial when playing the style we play with.
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| I would have given Haggy another go after he left Quins.
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| Millward wouldnt go to Salford pre season when you wanted him, cant see him coming now the transfer cost would be high and I feel he is waiting for a top 6 side next season.
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| I agree with RED101 over the performance which was woeful especially the second half when we appeared to have capitulated to a team who in the first quarter looked a poor side.
The fans? who boo and jeer the team and throw in obscenities at every opportunity are in my opinion an embarrassment to the club, its supporters and indeed themselves although for much of the game the fans did try to lift the side.
I like many people who have been supporting Salford for many years are cheesed off with our performances this season and the latter part of last season and the whole set up coaches,players and officials need to take a long hard look at themselves over the next few days and decide what action that they are going to take in the interest of the club.
Clearly the coach should consider his position although I still find it hard to accept that the players have been coached into giving away stupid penalties in key positions, dropping the ball or helping it to go into touch at every opportunity.
Either the players that we have signed plus the ones that we have retained are not up to standard or they are either playing how the coach wants them to or they cannot understand what the coach wants.
As an example I rate Daniel Holdsworth as a player and against Hull HR and Crusaders he showed what he can do, but in the last two matches my ten year old grandchild could play the game that he is playing at present IE Get the ball from the scrum and pass.Is he being told to play this type game?
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| You've got to be so careful, you're literally knocking on the bottom door of the franchise system.
It's as if your club has already given up.
Sounds stupid but..why haven't you signed anyone decent in the past 2 years? Where's the Myler money gone?
And why on earth are you getting 3000 crowds at this level? Don't mean to sound awful but Leigh could do better.
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| Quote ="Dico"Where's the Myler money gone? '"
That's an excellent question ..... can't imagine why no-one else on here has asked it before TBH?
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| Dico is yet another who doesnt understand the workings of finance. Salford still one of a handful only of RL clubs never to go into Administration/Liquidation for over 100 years. Yes we have paid our way yet if we had behaved like Leigh (Insolvency Masters Degree), Harlequins (ditto), HKR (£3 million in debt & in a Rented stadium), Wakefield (Several Creditor deals), Widnes who wrote off £2+ million of other peoples money we would probably be in a position to acquire the top players to challenge. Its all a question of integrity in the end isnt it?
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Dico is yet another who doesnt understand the workings of finance. Salford still one of a handful only of RL clubs never to go into Administration/Liquidation for over 100 years. Yes we have paid our way yet if we had behaved like Leigh (Insolvency Masters Degree), Harlequins (ditto), HKR (£3 million in debt & in a Rented stadium), Wakefield (Several Creditor deals), Widnes who wrote off £2+ million of other peoples money we would probably be in a position to acquire the top players to challenge. Its all a question of integrity in the end isnt it?'"
Indeed.
I would genuinely rather watch a financially sound club in the Championship with JAWs integrity intact than a team in SL with administration, liquidation, massive debts, etc. behind them.
All this "splash the cash" garbage gets on my nerves.
It's idiots throwing money around with no intelligence that's got the UK economy into the mess it's been in recently.
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| So then boys a win next week!!!
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| There is only one thing a Salford Supporter can say really and its that =#FF0000HE'S GOT TO GO with McRae he makes good players into bad players, Myler left at the right time and so did Jordan Turner, look at Stefan Ratchford this year he's got nothing like he did last season, and he knows it himself.
The more he stays the more damage he does, we're all just gonna be and that includes the players aswell ! i can't think of one person/player i know who likes the Pr1ck
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| I know passions are running high but can we cut out the name calling? Slug, prick whatever adds nothing to the discussion.
Under Harrison, you could see what he was trying to achieve and where the improvements he made where having an effect. I can't actually see what McRae is trying to do with the team.
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| Its Monday morning I'm gutted. I thought today was the day he would have got sacked. PLEASE WILKY LISTEN TO THE FANS AND SAVE OUR SALFORD
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| Well sair Red Willow, I think those of us on here who prefer to use constructive criticism rather than childish and down right horrible personal remarks are getting rather fed up of some posters on here!
The worrying thing is McRae hasnt inherited this bunch of players HE put them together and if he believes we dont have the skill or the understanding to make a difference on the pitch Mcrae only has himself to blame. His bland coaching is ruining the guys confidence. On friday Catalans didnt even hit second gear yet still went for the throat when they could sense victory.When was the last time our team did that?
Very,Very frustrating, Boring up the middle rugby. When we dont even have ANY forward power..Beyond belief.
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| Not sure whether you are bringing irony to the ''Club Well Run '' debate.
I repeat a previous post.
According to the latest accounts the Club owes at least £4.5 million and loses £800,000 in an average year.
It only exists because of the financial support of Mr Wilkinson.
He is the main difference between the finances of SCR and other clubs.
We are still here,though,with his support.
But lets not try and take the moral high ground as though we are making money and free of debt.
We are not !!
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| Especially on crowds of 3000.
The trapdoor is opening
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| Quote ="Dico"...The trapdoor is opening'"
Let's hope you're standing on it!
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| Sorry, for my language, but my passion frustration anger is still running high from friday night, lets just hope he listens to us one day THIS WEEK if prefferable
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