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| Quote ="Singapore Steeps"I think this is a great point. Let's see what 'Smack' does next year with a new team of his own and then judge.....
Let's have a bit of positivity on here.....'"
It's a win win situation for me. McRae's coaching reputation has been severely damaged over the past 2 years and I can't see him being of any interest to other Superleague/NRL clubs. If McRae wants to continue coaching at this level he will know better than anyone that he really has to start delivering more results next year. Maybe McRae's effort, enthusiam and focus will go up a few notches in the knowledge he will be working with a much stronger looking squad that look capable of making the play-offs.
However if the team don't get off to a good start in 2011 I think he will be in a very vulnerable position for an early retirement.
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| There is some chatter about Millward going to Widnes to take over from Cullen.
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| There is a link on the clubs official site to an article in today's MEN (online) by Neil Baker, confirming that Millward has officially applied for the post.
Sorry if this is old news.
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"There is a link on the clubs official site to an article in today's MEN (online) by Neil Baker, confirming that Millward has officially applied for the post.
Sorry if this is old news.'"
THE DREAM TEAM ?
[url=http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/rugby_league/s/1325095_millward_chases_salford_roleVIEW IT HERE[/url
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"There is a link on the clubs official site to an article in today's MEN (online) by Neil Baker, confirming that [uMillward has officially applied for the post.[/u
Sorry if this is old news.'"
Along with eleven others apparently. Would be very interesting to know who they are?
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| Quote ="PHOTO FINISH"THE DREAM TEAM ? '"
Or a nightmare!
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| Quote ="theredshed"Along with eleven others apparently. Would be very interesting to know who they are?'"
I wonder if Wayne Bennett has thrown his cap in the ring?
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| Quote ="king of the shed"Or a nightmare!'"
DO YOU THINK our NEW DREAM TEAM COULD WORK "king of the shed" ?
[iHonest answer now, no duckin and diving[/i
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| Quote ="PHOTO FINISH"DO YOU THINK our NEW DREAM TEAM COULD WORK "king of the shed" ?
[iHonest answer now, no duckin and diving[/i'"
I was thinking about this and come to the conclusion that the club wouldn't appoint an assistant to Shaun Mcrae without his agreement. I therefore believe that if Millward was chosen it would be because Mcrae believes he can work with him and he's the best man for the job. But it is hypothetical at the moment until an announcement is made.
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| Quote ="PHOTO FINISH"DO YOU THINK our NEW DREAM TEAM COULD WORK "king of the shed" ?
[iHonest answer now, no duckin and diving[/i'"
In short, NO. In a longer explanation, To many cooks spoiling the broth for me, clash of personalities between Shaun and Ian which could upset the camp with one wanting to play or do things one way and the other, well, the other. It could damage Malc’s development as he won’t know who to listen too or follow and the team could end up with conflicting messages, and they also may choose one or the other to listen too.
I know clubs have multiple coaches, Manager/Coach, Assistant, Fitness, Defensive, Attacking etc but this is different, they are both experienced first grade coaches with different styles.
Bad move for me.
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| Quote ="king of the shed"In short, NO. In a longer explanation, To many cooks spoiling the broth for me, clash of personalities between Shaun and Ian which could upset the camp with one wanting to play or do things one way and the other, well, the other. It could damage Malc’s development as he won’t know who to listen too or follow and the team could end up with conflicting messages, and they also may choose one or the other to listen too.
I know clubs have multiple coaches, Manager/Coach, Assistant, Fitness, Defensive, Attacking etc but this is different, they are both experienced first grade coaches with different styles.
Bad move for me.'"
Did we not have a similar situation several years ago with Ashcroft & Grainey that seemed to work very well?
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| Quote ="theredshed"eusa_think.gif Did we not have a similar situation a few years ago with Ashcroft & Grainey that seemed to work very well?'"
Nope Tommy Grainey was number two to Ashcroft (with Bob watsit as mainly A-Team coach)
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| Quote ="king of the shed"Nope Tommy Grainey was number two to Ashcroft (with Bob watsit as mainly A-Team coach)'"
My point was that Tommy Grainey was first team coach of Swinton before joining Salford as Ashcroft's assistant.
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| Quote ="theredshed"My point was that Tommy Grainey was first team coach of Swinton before joining Salford as Ashcroft's assistant.'"
It's a totally different situation now in the full time game, I remember Tommy spending time on the Shed roof fixing it whilst training was actually going on!
What he hadn't done was travelled 12,000 miles to be an assistant, Millward has already coached a double Super League, double Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge winning team and also been voted Coach of the Year. Not to mention being assistant coach at two teams in the best league in the world!
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| Quote ="king of the shed"It's a totally different situation now in the full time game, I remember Tommy spending time on the Shed roof fixing it whilst training was actually going on! '"
There a few on here praying for mcrae to undertake that role this season, they might even go all "Midsummer murder"
Quote What he hadn't done was travelled 12,000 miles to be an assistant, Millward has already coached a double Super League, double Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge winning team and also been voted Coach of the Year. Not to mention being assistant coach at two teams in the best league in the world!'"
But he hasnt coached Salford City Reds yet, probably Rugby leagues hardest coaching role imo
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| Quote ="king of the shed"It's a totally different situation now in the full time game, I remember Tommy spending time on the Shed roof fixing it whilst training was actually going on!
What he hadn't done was travelled 12,000 miles to be an assistant, Millward has already coached a double Super League, double Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge winning team and also been voted Coach of the Year. Not to mention being assistant coach at two teams in the best league in the world!'"
kots, are you suggesting that Millward wouldn't be satisfied with a 2nd in command role because of his past successes ? ..... and that this could lead to conflict & unrest ?
If so, and your worst fears become reality, I agree, it would be bad news in a season involving license applications and the clubs desire to leave The Willows on a high.
However, if he is given the job, would you agree that he may just be happy to have a foot in the door, and be willing to bide his time until the head coach job became available.
I'm not saying that this is what I can see happening, but it's a possibility.
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| Quote ="theredshed"Even harder than the England Football Manager's Job because Salford fans are even less realistic. (Think this is what Mr Mcrae was getting at during an interview for the BBC Sport website)
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Well imo Salford is a bit of a pandoras box of issues which you are battling against
We are a potential big club trapped in the mentality of small clubs body, our fan base has took such a hammering over the years with promises, then failure more promises and more failure its hard for us fans and the club to build a “winning mentality” and increase attendances. The players and coaches Im sure sometimes forget they are employed by one of the top 14 clubs in the country because
1) our profile in the city and the area always being put down as “sorry salford” ect
2) where we currently play tucked away in weaste they can mooch around manchester just like a face in the crowd and not be recognised like they would if they played for wigan for example
The club don’t have a lot of money so spend so sometimes it’s a “make do attitude” or just “do enough” when it comes to websites, shops rather than pushing back the barriers and seeing when we go on what we have.
Its not all bad tho…
It seems the Harrison years we have been able to improve our youth system down to the rugby genius being involved and off the field with the new stadium right next to the motorway with nowhere to hide around the corner after 10 long years people are beginning to take notice and want to be part of it, the new internet shop will hopefully soon be backed up with a new official website that runs a bit quicker add the fact the facebook and twitter accounts are going great guns with news exclusives we are targeting new audiences all the time
Our community projects are doing very well in the community spreading the word and touching new potential fans something that until recently haven’t really heard of .
On and Off the field we are on the cusp of something, the leap from small club also ran to main competitor big club is a large one and the club need to be prepared both on and off the field for the potential avalanche of new support when “old fans and new fans” wake up to where salford city reds are and where they are going.
This will bring expectation and excitement which everyone within the club will need to embrace and not let sufficate, its improved 100% on the late 90s early 00 both on and off and they should be applauded for that but we need to go up another level both on and off the field if we are to compete at super league level.
You’d hope Millward/Mcrae can use their experience coaching higher profile clubs to turn the juggernaut which is salford city reds around and make them a force on the field which makes the job of the field a little bit easier, all it needs is a cup final or a season of winning more than you lose and this club will take off in its new stadium .
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| Quote ="The optimist"
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Good grief - the optimist is being optimistic - whatever next?
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| Quote ="John Charnock"Good grief - the optimist is being optimistic - [uwhatever next?[/u '"
Starbug from the Leigh forum becoming less obsessed about our new stadium perhaps!
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