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| Quote ="Shizzle"Take it easy 35-40 tries haha
Between them they have scored 23 tries and the way warrington have ripped teams apart im sure the average joe number 7 playing in that team could score 15 tries
All i'm saying is they moved on and Salford have got better. Ratchford will move on and Salford will get better !!
just to compare dan holdsworth and myler
tries 15 to 6 in favour of myler
assists 23 to 9 in favour of Holdsworth !!!
i'd compare a centre to Jordan but i'd have to compare half the squad who have took turns there this year haha'"
I suspect Myler has played alot less games than Holdsworth, meaning he probably averages more combined than Holdsworth. Also, the way we use Hodgson as a third pivot means alot of the time he's making the final pass.
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| It's always a shame to see an academy product go (especially to Wire), but that's life. No doubt we will miss Ratchford, but if he wants to leave, then best of luck for the future (just not when he lines up against Salford). On the positive side, his leaving does create an opportunity for someone else to step up. IMHO we needed another centre regardless. Sneyd has been impressive this year, could Ratch leaving could be his chance at halfback?
Still shame it's Wire and not Wigan.
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| I wish him well, has been a great player not the finished article but in the Warrington team I predict good things. I am ed off, Jordan Turner, Ritchie Myler & now Stefan Ratchford!
We are only ever going to survive by bring young good players through & selling on to survive, unless we start to attract a new fan base, lets hope the new stadium kicks us on so we don't face this disappointment at the end of every season.
Good luck Ratch & I for one wish you well in a short career.
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| Good luck at wire Ratchford.
If you had to pick the Salford team for the rest of the season, would you still put him in the squad or try new combinations?
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| Something serious wrong deep down at our great club,ffs how many more good young players are we gonna loose??? even when we offer em decent money contracts they choose to leg it!!!
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| Quote ="wardleyred"Something serious wrong deep down at our great club,ffs how many more good young players are we gonna loose??? even when we offer em decent money contracts they choose to leg it!!!'"
I find a simple comfort in just blaming you.
However irrational it seems, to me - you are the problem.
Ahhhh...
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| Quote ="Marshy1"Never mind boys and girls itĀ“s no disgrace being warringtonĀ“s feeder club.
You can always take there ageing players as well.!!!'"
Are you plain stupid?
Warrington's signings from Salford:
Richie Myler
Stefan Ratchford
Salford signings from Warrington:
Adam Neal
Vinnie Anderson
Richie Barnett
Ian Sibbit
Mike Wainwright
That's just off the top of my head.
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| Quote ="wardleyred"Something serious wrong deep down at our great club,ffs how many more good young players are we gonna loose??? even when we offer em decent money contracts they choose to leg it!!!'"
Nice to see the first case of Sporting Bipolar Disorder post franchise.
Unfortunately it was from the King of SBD, so the excitement is limited.
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| Oh well.
Don't know if he had a choice, but IMO he has dropped a bollock going to Warrington rather than Saints or Wigan.
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| should not play again this season, give the players who will playing for us next season a chances to show there skills.
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| AGREED BRIAN!! prepare for the backlash off the regulars on here for such a bad comment though!!
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| Quote ="bryanthered"should not play again this season, give the players who will playing for us next season a chances to show there skills.'"
he won't be playing now due to injury, plus I doubt MP would pick him because he will not be part of his plays and plans for next season.
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| This is just what happens, players move up a food chain depending on how much resources a club has and how close they are to winning trophies, we were in exactly this situation for many years.
If you think losing Myler and Ratchford is annoying then think what a kick in the teeth it was to produce Harris and Sculthorpe in our own Academy then watch them being pinched by other clubs and go on to win 3 Man of Steels and 5 Super League titles between them. I bet Myler and Ratchford don't do that.
Warrington are now in a position where we can be in a position to compete for talented players but we know what it was like to be in the situation Salford are in and if Salford's stadium move goes well like ours did, and Salford start to get some good solid revenue in, Salford will do exactly the same, they will be competing for other young players, they wouldn't just leave them at their home club on principle....in fact Salford already took Myler and Robinson from other clubs.
Also I don't buy this line that Warrington can't develop their own talent - we might not have produced as much as Saints, Wigan or Leeds say, but we've produced Paul Wood, Harrison and Riley who are all decent players, that record matches up at least as well as what Salford have produced in the same time period. What Warrington have also done quite successfully is picked up young players from other clubs who showed talent but maybe had question marks about them, like Briers, Bridge and Westwood, and these guys have gone on to be top players with us. I would put Ratchford in that category (also Atkins). He's not a Harris or Scully type signing, he's a young player with talent but question marks.
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| I blame everyone who paid to see Take That.
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| Quote ="Iain"I blame everyone who paid to see Take That.'"
oops. must be my fault then
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| Quote ="wardleyred"Something serious wrong deep down at our great club,ffs how many more good young players are we gonna loose??? even when we offer em decent money contracts they choose to leg it!!!'"
Jesus, you'll start listening to Leonard Cohen next and we'll never hear from you again! Although with your constant negativity, I do have a copy of his Greatest Hits you can borrow......
There is nothing wrong at the club it is purely that we aren't a big club. Big clubs can attract players from small clubs/clubs in transition. Simples. It's the way of the world. We just have to deal with it and move on.
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| Quote ="Singapore Steeps"Jesus, you'll start listening to Leonard Cohen next and we'll never hear from you again! Although with your constant negativity, I do have a copy of his Greatest Hits you can borrow......
There is nothing wrong at the club it is purely that we aren't a big club. Big clubs can attract players from small clubs/clubs in transition. Simples. It's the way of the world. We just have to deal with it and move on.'"
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| So that's where my Leonard Cohen CD went!
Hallelujah.
Good post.
There needs to be more reality,if he has gone for less money then he is putting his career first; we hammer them for being greedy when they just go for the money. You can't have it both ways.
Good luck to him.
We are a club in transition. Myler left Widnes for us,he left us for Warrington. Seems logical to me.
We all want to return to the days when we were the destination of choice.
Look to The Future ( track 2)
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"
If you think losing Myler and Ratchford is annoying then think what a kick in the teeth it was to produce Harris and Sculthorpe in our own Academy then watch them being pinched by other clubs and go on to win 3 Man of Steels and 5 Super League titles between them. '"
In that case, I would expect Wire fans to act with a little more integrity that they are doing.
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Warrington are now in a position where we can be in a position to compete for talented players but we know what it was like to be in the situation Salford are in and if Salford's stadium move goes well like ours did, and Salford start to get some good solid revenue in, Salford will do exactly the same, they will be competing for other young players, they wouldn't just leave them at their home club on principle....in fact Salford already took Myler and Robinson from other clubs.'"
Not really comparing like for like - Myler was without a club, and Robinson was surpless to requirements at Wigan. Salford were extremely keen to keep both Myler & Ratchford.
Quote ="sally cinnamon"
Also I don't buy this line that Warrington can't develop their own talent - we might not have produced as much as Saints, Wigan or Leeds say, but we've produced Paul Wood, Harrison and Riley who are all decent players, that record matches up at least as well as what Salford have produced in the same time period. What Warrington have also done quite successfully is picked up young players from other clubs who showed talent but maybe had question marks about them, like Briers, Bridge and Westwood, and these guys have gone on to be top players with us. I would put Ratchford in that category (also Atkins). He's not a Harris or Scully type signing, he's a young player with talent but question marks.'"
These players have hardly been 'picked up'. With the exception of Briers, the rest have been poached with $$$ from weaker teams who would have dearly liked to have kept them.
Anyway, I hope it works out well for all three parties. Good luck Stefan. Break a leg...
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Are you plain stupid?
Warrington's signings from Salford:
Richie Myler
Stefan Ratchford
Salford signings from Warrington:
Adam Neal
Vinnie Anderson
Richie Barnett
Ian Sibbit
Mike Wainwright
That's just off the top of my head.'"
They even took Alan Hunte off us a while back
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Are you plain stupid?
Warrington's signings from Salford:
Richie Myler
Stefan Ratchford
Salford signings from Warrington:
Adam Neal
Vinnie Anderson
Richie Barnett
Ian Sibbit
Mike Wainwright
That's just off the top of my head.'"
Slightly different though, most of the players coming our way were either older players coming to the end of their careers or players not quite good enough for you team, apart from Adam Neal. Ratchford and Myler are both prospective England players for the next 10 years who we did everything within our power to keep.
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| RATCHFORD READY FOR 'MASSIVE MOVE'
[iWarrington have confirmed the signing of Salford stand-off Stefan Ratchford for next season.[/i
[iSalford City Reds revealed on Tuesday they expected the 23-year-old to join the Wolves when his contract expires at the end of the current campaign.
Ratchford, who will link up with his former Reds half-back partner Richie Myler at the Halliwell Jones Stadium, has signed a three-year deal with the Wolves.
Ratchford said: "It was a really tough decision having been at Salford for so many years but over the last few seasons Warrington have shown that they are heading in the right direction, winning Challenge Cup finals.
"I met (coach) Tony Smith a few years ago with England and he's doing very well with Warrington at present.
"I'm hoping working with Tony will help benefit my game and I can kick on to the next level.
"I am sad to be leaving Salford but this is a massive move for me and I'm looking forward to next year."
Ratchford made his Salford debut back in 2007 and was a key member of the Championship-winning side the fopllowing year.
He has made 103 appearances so far for the Reds in his four seasons at the Willows.
Warrington coach Smith said: "I'm very excited about working with Stefan.
"He's shown what a talented young player he is for a number of years now.
"I know how keen he is to succeed and how ambitious he his which suits the environment, and mix of talent and ambition already here at Warrington."
Ratchford's signing suggests Warrington view him as a potential long-term replacement for Lee Briers, who agreed a new contract until the end of 2012 earlier this year.
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| Good Luck to him, although I really wish it was any other club than Warrington.
Salford could not at present offer him trophies or even the position he wants to play in so it is a good move for him.
All Salford have to do now is kick on and win something to show Stefan how wrong he was.
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| good to see he admits to meeting Tony Smith, more tapping than a shunters yard.
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