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| Fatboys Limb
I never said anything other than Mr Wilkinson's a nice man,I also never said anything other than Mr Simms is a decent
man,I have never said Mr Wilkinson should leave the club either,as for Mr Alker,I did say,in my opinion he should never have been given the job in the first place,but unlike some people,I don't think everything the chairman dose is right
either,we have Mr Tarry who as been with us for 20 years, that's a long time,as for Mr Simms he says he does not have
any input,but since he as been with us we have had three coaches,if he does not have input,why do we need him
tell me any other club that as a football manager,surely he's wages would be better off spent on players,if we are that
hard up
I RESPECT YOUR OPINION,BUT I AM ENTITLED TO MINE.
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| 'stuck' in a NON RELEGATION league, is hardly a crisis.
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| Quote ="Bradleigh"'stuck' in a NON RELEGATION league, is hardly a crisis.
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it is when the licenses are up for renewal and Widnes have already got one, then unless the league expands a club will be relegated this year 2/3rds of the way through the season.
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| How are the Reds in a crisis? The coaching position was brought about by SM health concerns that no one could control. The club has some quality players, some good youth, a wealthy committed backer and a brand new state of the art ground just around the corner. Is that a crisis?? I dont think so.
If crisis is the last 3 matches then yes if you are so short sighted but as a club there are others who are envious, I suspect
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| Jack is a journalist
i.e. treat his statements as entertainment.
The job he has is 1) to entertain, 2) to talk about rugby league, 3) to fill the time allotted, and only 4) to inform.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"How are the Reds in a crisis? The coaching position was brought about by SM health concerns that no one could control. The club has some quality players, some good youth, a wealthy committed backer and a brand new state of the art ground just around the corner. Is that a crisis?? I dont think so.
If crisis is the last 3 matches then yes if you are so short sighted but as a club there are others who are envious, I suspect'"
if you look at the evidence of the last 2 and a half seasons, have Salford improved? well if it was not for the points deductions we would be second bottom, one below where we finished last year and same place as first season. Have the attendances improved? No because of the poor product on the field due to a poor coaching technigue and a revolving door fitness conditioner post.
Will the new ground being people in? well thats next year and unless something starts to happen out on the park the people will not come.
Our backer is not as wealthy as many others in Rugby League,( the new stadium has almost wiped him out) unless Peel Holdings take us over and then the sky is the limit.
So it is not the last 3 games one of which we won but the last 3 years of watching poor rugby with just the odd great display plus it is no good bringing on young players who move on as soon as a "big" team comes sniffing, Watkins to Leeds, Myler to Warrington, Turner to Hull and any day now we expect to see Stef driving a brand new convertable BMW even though September is when players can be approached, the plumbers of Wire are tapping again.
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| "unless Peel Holdings take us over and then the sky is the limit"
NO NO NO
there are two possible scenarios of whom may take us over:
Kennedy of Sale Sharks
Peel Holdings
Both will destroy Salford RLFC.
Ask any firm, business, club or similar who have had one of these "take them over".
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| Quote ="Bigpev"Have the attendances improved? No because of the poor product on the field due to a poor coaching technigue and a revolving door fitness conditioner post.'"
Surprisingly, attendances are actually up on this time last year.
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| like i said 'what crisis' ???
Pathetic crowd 1,957 though, well done Harlequins !!!
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Surprisingly, attendances are actually up on this time last year.'"
more to do with who we have played so far this year, who traditionally bring a large away following, except Bradford.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"more to do with who we have played so far this year, who traditionally bring a large away following, except Bradford.'"
Nope, not at all.
Compare our 6 home games so far this season with our first 6 home games last year and crowds are up.
Compare our 6 home games so far this season with the corresponding fixtures last year (ie. against the same 6 teams) and crowds are still up.
Not sure how/why though?! Maybe it's not all as 'doom-and-gloom' as some think??
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"...... Maybe it's not all as 'doom-and-gloom' as some think??'"
What kind of attitude is that for a Salford fan?
Of course it's doom and gloom - wouldn't be the Scarlet Turkey otherwise!
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| i can,t believe the amount of sand in the shed for people to stick their head in,we are in a mess,we have no idea what tomorrow will bring either on or of the field,you cannot move forward if you don,t know which way forward is,we need some leadership from somewhere,on the board or in the coaching staff,lets face it ,I could have wrote this any time for the past twenty years,but its never been quite as bizzare as it is now.
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| Quote ="judk"i can,t believe the amount of sand in the shed for people to stick their head in,we are in a mess,we have no idea what tomorrow will bring either on or of the field,you cannot move forward if you don,t know which way forward is,we need some leadership from somewhere,on the board or in the coaching staff,lets face it ,I could have wrote this any time for the past twenty years,but its never been quite as bizzare as it is now.'"
Hopefully with us finally agreeing to part company with Mcrae and the prospect of a new coach pretty soon then things will be looking up.
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| Monday and with nothing to do here are our figures for the first 6 home matches this season
Total attendance 2011 = 30,324
Total attendance 2010 for the same 6 teams = 29,734
so effectively up 590 or an extra 98 per game.
The first 6 games of last season total attendance = 24,416
an increase here of 5,908 or 985 per game.
We have played 3 teams in both of first 6 games each season
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Wigan..................6,266..........6,618 down 342
Bradford...............2,809..........3,806 down 997 Clashed with Utd v City at Wembley
Crusaders.............3,416..........3,421 down 5 Crusaders taxi broke down on way to ground.
I don't make any conclusions, but collectively we are up but against the same teams in the same period we are down 1344 fans.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"We have played 3 teams in both of first 6 games each season
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Wigan..................6,266..........6,618 down 342
Bradford...............2,809..........3,806 down 997 Clashed with Utd v City at Wembley
Crusaders.............3,416..........3,421 down 5 Crusaders taxi broke down on way to ground.
I don't make any conclusions, but collectively we are up but against the same teams in the same period we are down 1344 fans.'"
We may be down on those three fixtures but the other 3 teams we've played so far this year are all up on last year;
Saints = 5,929 this year (5,685 in 2010) = up 244
HKR = 4,408 this year (4,111 in 2010) = up 297
Wire = 7,496 this year (6,093 in 2010) = up 1,403
which means that there's been an increase of 1,944 over those 3 games.
Add that to the fall of 1,344 in the 3 games you referred to add we're 590 higher over the 6 games against those teams this year than we were last.
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| I bet you two are a real hit at dinner parties
Don't forget that for some fans it is the last time they will visit the Willows and I'd suggest that for some older ones a trip to a traditional rugby ground is an oppertunity they won't miss with so many closing.
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"We may be down on those three fixtures but the other 3 teams we've played so far this year are all up on last year;
Saints = 5,929 this year (5,685 in 2010) = up 244
HKR = 4,408 this year (4,111 in 2010) = up 297
Wire = 7,496 this year (6,093 in 2010) = up 1,403
which means that there's been an increase of 1,944 over those 3 games.
Add that to the fall of 1,344 in the 3 games you referred to add we're 590 higher over the 6 games against those teams this year than we were last.'"
yes i do mention all that, just equating to same time of season.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Jack is a journalist
i.e. treat his statements as entertainment.
The job he has is 1) to entertain, 2) to talk about rugby league, 3) to fill the time allotted, and only 4) to inform.'"
He is a journalist, but he's no John Pilger. He's more of a one man Statler and Waldorf: "Salford are playing well" ... "Well, not too badly." ... "Poor opposition though." ... "They're struggling without a coach." ... "They've hardly any coaching staff." ... "People keep leaving." ... "The news from the club is always bad." ... "CLUB IN CRISIS! CLUB IN CRISIS!"
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| Quote ="Bigpev"yes i do mention all that, just equating to same time of season.'"
You're just getting all negative because you keep missing the victories.
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| Quote ="Red John"You're just getting all negative because you keep missing the victories.'"
Were you hiding on Saturday or did you not sit with the Salford fans?
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| Quote ="Bigpev"Were you hiding on Saturday or did you not sit with the Salford fans?'"
Did you see the size of the crowd? There was nowhere to hide.
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| Quote ="Red John"Did you see the size of the crowd? There was nowhere to hide.'"
but the Sky camera man couldn't find you
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| Quote ="Bigpev"Quote ="Red John"Did you see the size of the crowd? There was nowhere to hide.'"
but the Sky camera man couldn't find you
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The cameraman found our feet when the General scored actually!
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